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Old 11-14-2010, 09:00 AM
 
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tamiznluv--You mentioned that you have goldfish in a community tank, how is that working out? It has always been my understanding that you can't keep them with community fish because they prefer colder water, have different dietary requirements (high fiber vegetarian pellets being ideal), and that the goldfish urine is very potent and can be toxic to other fish if waater not changed routinely. That is what I have been told, but maybe not that big deal?
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Old 11-14-2010, 10:00 AM
 
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tamiznluv--You mentioned that you have goldfish in a community tank, how is that working out? It has always been my understanding that you can't keep them with community fish because they prefer colder water, have different dietary requirements (high fiber vegetarian pellets being ideal), and that the goldfish urine is very potent and can be toxic to other fish if waater not changed routinely. That is what I have been told, but maybe not that big deal?
Contraire to everything we have been told or read, our goldfish are doing just fine in the community tank, pv! My husband keeps the H2O at what is cooler for the tetras and guppies but warmer than what TPTB say a goldfish should be in. Hubby wanted to see how they would do in a community tank and they acclimated great! They grew bigger and are 8 years old now. ALL the fish eat the wafers and zucchini we feed them They all eat the tetra food too.

The goldie urine is the biggest factor. Hubs changes the water once a week and has 4 filters on the tank. The tank has been going for 6 years now.
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Old 11-14-2010, 10:02 AM
 
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gold fish have been bred for such a long time now in warm water that they are more tolerant to it. I have seen them in ponds in the caribbean
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Old 11-14-2010, 11:49 AM
 
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yeah, same with guppies they have developed some brightly colored female guppies, they now look as good as the males


guppy female


betta female:

The "female" you shared with us is actually a male. You can clearly see the gonopodium, which only males have. It's their, well, you-know-what. This first link shows the picture you shared of that male, the photographer describes him as the brother of a female he has, "The brother of the red female is shown below..". The photographer just shared his males on that page. That same photographer shares some of his females on the second link. I will say you are right about one thing though, there are some pretty female guppies these days. Just*not*quite*as*pretty.

RMGA - Article - Wild Guppy Cross

Female Guppy
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Old 11-14-2010, 08:36 PM
 
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The "female" you shared with us is actually a male. You can clearly see the gonopodium, which only males have. It's their, well, you-know-what. This first link shows the picture you shared of that male, the photographer describes him as the brother of a female he has, "The brother of the red female is shown below..". The photographer just shared his males on that page. That same photographer shares some of his females on the second link. I will say you are right about one thing though, there are some pretty female guppies these days. Just*not*quite*as*pretty.

RMGA - Article - Wild Guppy Cross

Female Guppy

lol, well Petsmart carries red females like the male I posted, the males and the females look just about the same in terms of color, the females are just fatter, lack the gonopodium and has a different shaped anal fin.
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Old 11-14-2010, 11:17 PM
 
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Some females are "pinkish" in color too.

That's where I buy my Bettas from, PetSmart.

Did you know that by the time most Bettas get to the POS, they are already close to or more than a year old?
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Old 11-15-2010, 07:46 AM
 
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We've had a Betta in the house for about 12 years. (Not the same one tho, lol) They are usually really easy. After we bought our first fish tank and the aquarium store guy helped us pick out all the fish, we decided to just stick with one Betta at a time/tank. The first time, we bought 6 fish, including one beautiful Blue Male betta. The only two that survived that first week were "King Louie" - the betta, and a sucker.

Since then, we've gotta them their own little 1 gallon tanks from Walmart, though we tried a vase (but no flowers) once - but decided to buy tanks with a lid. When King Louie passed, we got my son his first fish - Fluffy, which last about 3 years before I found him floating. Then we got a red one, Snowy. He lived 3 1/2 years. The last six months though, he played dead a lot. One morning, I saw him floating on his side, on top of the water. My son was 7. We gently broke the news to him that Snowy had passed. We put a towel over the tank while we got our kids ready for school. About 10 minutes later, he was swimming again. This happened about every two weeks for almost 6 months before he really went. By the time he was actually gone, my kids were "over it". Both kids then got new ones - Banana (Yellow) and Cutie Pie (Purple/Pink). We got them from Walmart. DH forgot to lift Banana over the sensors at Walmart as we left. He died 3 days later. Banana II was found a few weeks after we got him, lying on the counter whole. I'd noticed an odor, but couldn't pin it down. The kids then told me he was "missing". I laughed at them, sure he was just hiding behind his castle - nope. We'll never know the true story with him. He was in a large vase, no lid. No idea if the cat swatted him out and then lost interest, or if he jumped. My son refused to get a replacement and thinks he's a "fish killer". Cutie Pie was flushed 3 years later when we moved. We didn't want to do it, but no one wanted him and taking him along on a cross country move would've added too much stress. We got my daughter a new blue & red male when we moved here to Texas. His name is Pot Roast. He sits on the sill of my pass through to the kitchen, above the sink. He comes to the glass and watches me while I do dishes. He makes a lot of bubble 'nests'. We've had him about 1 1/2 years now.

Our first one, we were feeding everyday. It was when we got Snowy that someone explained just to drop 3-5 pellets every third day. I wonder if that was why King Louie was so aggressive - maybe there were steroids in his food!
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Old 11-15-2010, 10:13 AM
 
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The reason for not feeding every day is because of what it does to the water quality. They say that over feeding fish can kill them, but it isn't the acyual food itself that kill them. It is the amount of waste created by the feeding in the form of poo, pee, and decomposed food. I have always fed my fish only once, every other day, and it reduces the amount of times I have to do water changes.
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Old 11-15-2010, 12:09 PM
 
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Overfeeding is bad, but underfeeding is bad, too. It reminds me of when I first built my pond and added goldfish, the place I bought them from told me not to feed them so I wouldn't have a dirty pond. Bettas should ideally be fed once a day, skipping just one day a week. I don't mind water changes, with four fish tanks I'm doing at least one water change with one of the tanks every day.

I think I posted this link once already, but it shows a betta's tummy, and if they are getting enough food. It shows some pretty fat ones. lol

betta food
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Old 11-15-2010, 10:21 PM
 
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The "female" you shared with us is actually a male. You can clearly see the gonopodium, which only males have. It's their, well, you-know-what. This first link shows the picture you shared of that male, the photographer describes him as the brother of a female he has, "The brother of the red female is shown below..". The photographer just shared his males on that page. That same photographer shares some of his females on the second link. I will say you are right about one thing though, there are some pretty female guppies these days. Just*not*quite*as*pretty.

RMGA - Article - Wild Guppy Cross

Female Guppy

lol these are definately female:






like I was saying earlier, not all female guppies and Betta's are drab. they have developed some really nice ones.

Female Bettas:
http://ebetta.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/female-betta.jpg (broken link)



The male Betta fins just make them look extra pretty
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