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Old 09-21-2013, 10:14 AM
 
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I actually think I'm gonna go with gravel, don't want to suck any of that sand up in my pump, and I'm unfamiliar enough with it that I don't want to take any chances.

I think gravel would opt out the cory cats, though, correct? They are better with sand if I understand correctly. Are the ottos also schooling cats, and will they be ok with gravel?

BTW, I do intend to also pick the brains of my local fish store people before I get into buying fish and stocking everything.
Cory's do fine with gravel and dirt, not sure if sand is preferred or not
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Old 09-21-2013, 04:21 PM
 
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cories will do fine with gravel jus preferable look for something with a smoother texture or smaller gravel size...
ottos are loose schoolers, they interact with others of their group and do best in groups but they are more algea than bottom clean up.

but cories will do fine with a good aquarium gravel.
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Old 09-22-2013, 06:11 AM
 
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Yes, go for small, smooth gravel, cories have little barbels that can wear down with repeated digging in the substrate, which is what cories do when searching for food. Years ago with my first cories, I had a small variety of them, only about an inch long at maturity. My gravel was large and uneven with sharp edges, and the cories started to die. It was after researching that I saw their little barbels had worn down. I felt so guilty.
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Old 09-22-2013, 02:17 PM
 
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Yes, go for small, smooth gravel, cories have little barbels that can wear down with repeated digging in the substrate, which is what cories do when searching for food. Years ago with my first cories, I had a small variety of them, only about an inch long at maturity. My gravel was large and uneven with sharp edges, and the cories started to die. It was after researching that I saw their little barbels had worn down. I felt so guilty.
Aww, that's sad. But how could you know?
I'm so pleased to have so many places to be able to go online to get info on things like this, such a change from just a few years ago, really.

I got some gravel, but it's not really small, nor really smooth. I will probably get plecos or ottos instead of cories.

I bought a filter and a bubble stone, and I have set up the tank. I have not bought any conditioner or anything for the water, and I'm not putting anything live into it yet. Just gonna let it run for a while, then add things to be able to cycle it and get it up and complete.

I'm not a very patient person, had to get it started.

At the fish store I saw some crowntailed bettas....so pretty. I just love that look.
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Old 09-22-2013, 03:16 PM
 
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Congrats on setting up the new tank! If you are thinking of a pleco, be sure to get a bushy nose/bristle nose pleco, they only grow to about 5" long. The common brown plecos grow up to two feet long, too big for the average fishkeeper. You'll also need to add a little piece of driftwood to the tank for a pleco, they like to sort of "gnaw" on it. They also need a little supplementation such as sinking pellets or little bits of algae wafers such as by Spectrum One, they won't survive on algae alone, especially in a new tank. (just read the ingredients, some algae wafers aren't really algae, but wheat/soy) There are other little treats for plecos, but we'll wait 'til you get one.

Otos should go in older, more established tanks, that already have existing algae, so you might want to wait a bit on them. I know it's hard to be patient, but it's better in the long run so you don't lose fish. You'll want to start slowly in the beginning when adding fish anyway, so you don't crash your cycle, and you'll also want to keep an eye on any new fish for sickness so they don't spread it.

I think you should try a crowntail betta when you're ready, he might do quite well with other fish, many do. The worst that could happen is that he didn't, and then you could always buy a 2 gallon desk top tank for him.
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Old 09-22-2013, 03:52 PM
 
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then you could always buy a 2 gallon desk top tank for him.
and so it begins LMAO
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Old 09-26-2013, 07:38 PM
 
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If you are thinking of a pleco, be sure to get a bushy nose/bristle nose pleco, they only grow to about 5" long.

I think you should try a crowntail betta when you're ready, he might do quite well with other fish, many do. The worst that could happen is that he didn't, and then you could always buy a 2 gallon desk top tank for him.
I googled that type of pleco, and I love the way it looks!! Are they also schoolers? I'd love to have a little group of something scurrying around the bottom.

Thanks for the encouragement on the crowntail, I think they're really pretty.

I have made a little "cave" out of a tiny clay flowerpot with largish rocks piled around it. What can I get that will use that? (I am under the impression that fresh water shrimp are not a good idea--if I end up with a betta.) I was thinking a khuli loach or two?
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Old 09-27-2013, 09:41 AM
 
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Pleco's arent schoolers, they are kind of solitary fish. Not super active by day (but mine are somewhat active). I have 3 Albino BN Pleco's.
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Old 09-27-2013, 09:57 AM
 
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I think a 20 gallon high might be too small for a khuli loach, but it might work, however I think they are shy. And you have to be careful, they can squeeze into your filter.

Brian is right, plecos aren't schoolers and you don't see them much during the day. If you want something schooling around the bottom, cories would. But I have heard that you shouldn't mix cories with khuli loaches, especially in a small aquarium, as they compete for food.
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Old 09-27-2013, 01:08 PM
 
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Cory's do fine with gravel and dirt, not sure if sand is preferred or not

Sand is preferred. Their barbels are fragile and many types of gravel have sharp edges. There is coated and/or rounded gravel, but it is often more expensive than sand. But it often clogs with undergravel filters. I've personally had little luck with undergravel filters and prefer external canisters.

Rinse the sand very well!!

Oh, I've done fine with bettas in community tanks, as long as their aren't super fast fish or fin nippers (such as tiger bards). Neons should be fine. Remember with cories and neos that they're schooling fish and they do better in larger groups.

Last edited by timberline742; 09-27-2013 at 01:13 PM.. Reason: noticed the undergravel fileter
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