08-23-2006, 11:07 AM
Location: NE Ohio
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My husband has the opportunity to relocate for employment to either Ft. Lauderdale or Tampa. I would like to know which area has suburbs that are most condusive to a family with children - low crime, smaller "home town" feel, good schools, affordable housing (rent 3/2 for $1000/mo.), good commute time (30-45 minutes) to the city, etc.
We have family in both Port Orange. Is it better to be north of Ft. Lauderdale or east of Tampa?
We are from North East Ohio and are used to a small town environment (one high school only). We live about 45 miles south of Cleveland (nearest MAJOR metro area) where my husband commutes. I wouldn't LIVE in Cleveland but it is good to visit and work in.
Any input would be greatly appreciated as we need to make a decision pretty soon.
Thank you all!
Suzanne
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08-23-2006, 11:36 AM
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My husband has the opportunity to relocate for employment to either Ft. Lauderdale or Tampa. I would like to know which area has suburbs that are most condusive to a family with children - low crime, smaller "home town" feel, good schools,
affordable housing (rent 3/2 for $1000/mo.) , good commute time (30-45 minutes) to the city, etc.
We have family in both Port Orange. Is it better to be north of Ft. Lauderdale or east of Tampa?
We are from North East Ohio and are used to a small town environment (one high school only). We live about 45 miles south of Cleveland (nearest MAJOR metro area) where my husband commutes. I wouldn't LIVE in Cleveland but it is good to visit and work in.
Any input would be greatly appreciated as we need to make a decision pretty soon.
Thank you all!
Suzanne
CocoaGirl
I can't speak for the rest of the state, but there is no decent area in Broward county (where Ft. Lauderdale is located) where you can rent a 3/2 for $1000. Heck, there aren't many less than decent areas you can get something for that price!! I pay $1200 (and that's pretty cheap) for a 2/2 1/2.
08-24-2006, 11:03 AM
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suzanne...
When I see thread like yours, I am always impressed and confused, as how some people have the courage to bring a family down to SOUTH FLORIDA, of all the places...in florida, and with CHILDREN !!if that was not enough.
Look, FT.Lauderdale and Tampa are absolutely NO place for a family with children! A job is not a good reason to bring your family down in a place like that. Now, if for other resons you have to move to Fl, then you can consider many other places...It's a big State. But those places that you mantion are the cess-pool of the State, and children especially, don't deserve to grow-up in such enviroment! This is my honest opinion, however I do whish you the very best of luck!!
08-24-2006, 01:29 PM
Location: North Brandon
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If I may rebut Milano's assessment of Tampa..........
I do take issue with the less-than-Chamber of Commerce-like critique of the Tampa area. My wife and I have lived in this "cess pool" for 20 years and, in spite of local government, have watched it mature into a big small town, torn between contemporary growth and cutting the cord with "Old Florida". As with all rapid development, there are pains to go along with the pleasures. Roads and schools are filling up fast. The key to your happiness here will be your commute. Your drive time directly affects your quality of life. I cannot say its a total paradise, but you can still find sizable pockets of country tranquility just East of Tampa into Hillsborough County. Not to mention the beauty of our surrounding counties. Our Grandchildren attend "A" schools(and THEY can spell) and are involved with excellent local sports programs. I could go on. Suffice it to say, this area still has much to offer the Northern transplant, as we once were. Good luck
08-24-2006, 03:06 PM
Location: tampa
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Tampa
Geez, some people should not live here. What keeps people here that hate it so much??? There must be some reason you stay! I am not trying to start a debate, but if you hate it that much move!
I live in tampa (happily) with 2 kids. My kids do go to Private school. But No it is not because I have heard awful things about public schools. I went to Private, my husband went to private. Therefore, we both feel more comfortable with the smaller school. I have friends with kids in Public school here and they do great.
SOooooo with that said. It is going to be a HUGE change, but my parents (who live about 3 hours south of Columbus in Ohio, come down here for 4 months out of the year and LOVE it.
It is not a big Cess pool as the poster has commented! I do think Tampa is a little more resonably priced than Ft. Lauderdale. However, for a 3 bedroom you are looking at 1200 a month for a decent one and as much as 1600 for a nice one.
Your best bet might be to rent a house. There are very little apartment complexes left. (a lot have converted to condo's) So you might find more variety and better prices in a rental house. (especially since there are so many turning to that since they can't sell)
I am totally pleased with living here. I am from Michigan but like I said my parents live in a VERY small town in Ohio and are not overwhelmed w/ the crime and such like it is being protrayed. Yes, it will be a little more than your use to in small town, but I don't think you will hate it.
Rebecca
08-24-2006, 03:21 PM
Location: Beautiful South Florida!
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I grew up in South Florida, it was terrible. 52 weeks a year of t-shirts+shorts, fishing, weekends playing on the beach, playing outside year round, attending Dolphin games + the Miami Grand Prix. Went to the horrid public schools, my best friend got so tramautized by growing up here that he became an electrical engineer for a Fortune 100 company, another friend became a Microbiologist. Have I fed the troll enough?
Rents here are alot more than $1000/mo for a 3 bedroom, $1000/mo. will get you a nice 1 bedroom only. And Ft. Lauderdale is the center of America's 6th largest metro area, so not much small town feel anywhere near it. But I've been to Cleveland in the winter, and I'd pay whatever I could muster to move here before winter sets in.
08-24-2006, 09:41 PM
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Yes Sunnydog that is the point. The time you speak about was some years ago. Most of Florida was better years ago. No one cares about 10 years ago. They want to know about now. Oh yea and gas was 89 cents when you went to high school too, right.
08-25-2006, 12:47 AM
Location: NE Ohio
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Wow!
Thank you to everyone for your input. I appreciate the openess from everyone. It is good to know there are actually folks living in Florida who LIKE it or even LOVE it!
We have family in Jacksonville (Arlington area) and in Port Orange. The Jax area is very congested as the roads have not kept up with the influx of new business and residents. But we have traffic here in the Cleveland area as well. The family in Port Orange absolutely LOVES it! They've lived all over the world with their jobs and they want to make Florida their PERMANANT home.
My husband's whole family lives in the Jacksonville/Ponte Vedra area and we would like our children to be able to see their grandparents more often. Driving several hours to Jax or Port Orange from within FL would be much better than driving 16-20 hours! And flying is just not always convenient.
Yeah, our family who are "Floridians" are well-educated, have decent jobs, and are happy, well-adjusted people. Perhaps happiness lies within the individual no matter where they live!
Thanks again to everyone. I do appreciate your input!
Suzanne
08-25-2006, 05:05 AM
Location: Beautiful South Florida!
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Yes Sunnydog that is the point. The time you speak about was some years ago. Most of Florida was better years ago. No one cares about 10 years ago. They want to know about now. Oh yea and gas was 89 cents when you went to high school too, right.
My advice is for NOW. 10 years ago, unemployment here was around 8% in Miami. Now it's around 4%. Guess you don't have to work for a living? Just because you couldn't hack it out down here doesn't mean you got to be rude. Enjoy freezing your a$$ off elsewhere.
08-25-2006, 07:17 AM
Location: Florida & Arizona
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I think Rebecca and the others talking about Tampa (positively) are pretty much spot-on. While there are good and bad things about a city of this size, now is a good time to come into the area if you're planning on moving. The real estate market has pretty much tanked, and nothing is moving, so it's a buyer's market. Apartments are rapidly going condo in most areas, so it's tough to find a decent apartment.
I live east of Tampa in a middle/upper middle class area (Valrico) and while no place is perfect, this isn't bad at all. Probably the biggest problem we see since moving here in the mid-90s from the upper Midwest is the growth. The county hasn't made adequate plans to control or deal with it, so some areas are growing well beyond the means of the infrastructure needed to support them.
The FishHawk area is a perfect example, where thousands of homes were built in a short time, but the roads are far from adequate to handle the traffic. Due to increases in materials costs, the likelihood of any improvements being made in the immediate future are slim. The worst part of all this is that they have approved another development in the same area with over 3,000 (more) homes!
Otherwise, the area in general is nice, crime is low, but things like auto and home insurance are pretty high. Think about summer roughly 8-9 months a year - if you don't like hot and humid, don't move. The "winter" months are the one thing that are really pleasurable, as temperatures are very mild and humidity is much lower. As a Midwesterner, I get a kick seeing everyone out with parkas and gloves when it drops into the low 50s.
I am planning on leaving in a few years, but that's more due to a desire to live where there are four seasons again rather than dissatisfaction with the area.
RM
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People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)