[expatCA]

Originally Posted by Goose24

Sorry about the cold weather and freezing oceans.

Not to mention the fog during May and June.



Born and raised in SoCal and yes the water is COLD.

[craigiri]

Using most all common human comfort indexes, Florida is unfit for humans much of the year.

You can serious die easily from the heat and humidity...

Most people just stay in A/C 90% or more of the time. It's hot. Hot as heck. But, from mid-Florida north it's quite nice from about Dec 1 to April 1......

[FireStation46]

Better than being in Dublin 45F or Antananarivo 45F today


https://www.timeanddate.com/weather/

[Dave_n_Tenn]

Originally Posted by craigiri

Using most all common human comfort indexes, Florida is unfit for humans much of the year.

You can serious die easily from the heat and humidity...

Most people just stay in A/C 90% or more of the time. It's hot. Hot as heck. But, from mid-Florida north it's quite nice from about Dec 1 to April 1......

Think about all those folks lying dead in the streets who HAVE to work outside, ALL the TIME... and the dead people on beaches. Shall we list a few? Remember our society depends on those "hardy" enough to work in conditions that the average person finds "deplorable" and uncomfortable.

Trash collection
Package delivery UPS-USPS etc
DOT workers
Roofers
Electrical Utility workers
Construction
Paramedics
Firefighters
Military
Ports-longshoremen
Fisherman
Agricultural workers
Cattlemen


Healthy people don't die from heat and humidity, but WILL die from the cold.

[craigiri]

Originally Posted by Dave_n_Tenn

Think about all those folks lying dead in the streets who HAVE to work outside, ALL the TIME... and the dead people on beaches. Shall we list a few? Remember our society depends on those "hardy" enough to work in conditions that the average person finds "deplorable" and uncomfortable.

Healthy people don't die from heat and humidity, but WILL die from the cold.

I'm just reporting what scientists say.....those are the fact.

I don't think even you could claim Florida - as we know it - would exist without Air Conditioning! The population was less than 1/10th of now before Mr. Carrier showed up....and most of those people lived near the water and many were seasonal.

Sure, Army infantry usually are in good shape. But, even at West Point and in boot camps, many get sick (even deaths) from excess heat and humidity.

As you well know, the population of Florida tends older....heavier....than average. Add it all together and people cannot survive without A/C (there are always exceptions).

"The first Americans to spend much time in South Florida were the U.S. Army men who chased the Seminole Indians around the peninsula in the 1830s. And they hated it. Today, their letters read like Yelp reviews of an arsenic café, denouncing the region as a “hideous,” “loathsome,” “diabolical,” “God-abandoned” mosquito refuge.

“Florida is certainly the poorest country that ever two people quarreled for,” one Army surgeon wrote. “It was the most dreary and pandemonium-like region I ever visited, nothing but barren wastes.” An officer summarized it as “swampy, low, excessively hot, sickly and repulsive in all its features.” The future president Zachary Taylor, who commanded U.S. troops there for two years, groused that he wouldn’t trade a square foot of Michigan or Ohio for a square mile of Florida. The consensus among the soldiers was that the U.S. should just leave the area to the Indians and the mosquitoes; as one general put it, “I could not wish them all a worse place.” Or as one lieutenant complained: “Millions of money has been expended to gain this most barren, swampy, and good-for-nothing peninsula.”"

IT'S ONLY GOTTEN HOTTER SINCE THEN (CLIMATE CHANGE).
SINCE THE OP IS ASKING IF FLORIDA IS REALLY HOT, THAT IS THE ANSWER....BUT WITH A/C IT CAN BE A LOT COOLER.

[Dave_n_Tenn]

Tell me again... what the scientists say, regarding Florida being unfit for humans?

So your argument is :
1) Without AC Florida would be less populated. True, but what would the US or Canada look like without heat?
2) (most) People in Florida are old and fat and need AC... er um, where do you think those old fat people come from? LOL, go ahead take a guess. and what about that person who fixes your AC, they usually don't die when working outside.
3) Loathsome place... Florida has the oldest City in the US... St. Augustine, Seems the early explorers found it hospitable. In addition, 30,000,000 people a year don't find it loathsome when they visit.... with 500K being Canadians.

Here's an example of loathsome ... https://www.floridastateparks.org/pa...ngs-state-park

Would you care to share you source of "getting hotter" in Florida? and Your "assumptions" are mostly wrong.

You must have Florida envy and live in a freezer.

[gypsychic]

Originally Posted by Dave_n_Tenn

Tell me again... what the scientists say, regarding Florida being unfit for humans?

So your argument is :
1) Without AC Florida would be less populated. True, but what would the US or Canada look like without heat?
2) (most) People in Florida are old and fat and need AC... er um, where do you think those old fat people come from? LOL, go ahead take a guess. and what about that person who fixes your AC, they usually don't die when working outside.
3) Loathsome place... Florida has the oldest City in the US... St. Augustine, Seems the early explorers found it hospitable. In addition, 30,000,000 people a year don't find it loathsome when they visit.... with 500K being Canadians.

Here's an example of loathsome ... https://www.floridastateparks.org/pa...ngs-state-park

Would you care to share you source of "getting hotter" in Florida? and Your "assumptions" are mostly wrong.

You must have Florida envy and live in a freezer.

Great post and I 1000% agree. I am a native and grew up without AC. I have also lived in older homes with no AC as did my parents. We did not die from it. I'd like to see the northern people here live without their heat in the winter! Much worse to freeze to death!!

And I will add that one of the reasons it feels so hot here now is too many damn people are coming here from elsewhere, developers chopping down the trees which provide natural AC, and there is too much HOT PAVEMENT. Feel the difference when you are in the shade near a source of free flowing breeze!

[cfbs2691]

Originally Posted by gypsychic

one of the reasons it feels so hot here now is too many damn people are coming here from elsewhere, developers chopping down the trees which provide natural AC, and there is too much HOT PAVEMENT!

Exactly. Unfortunately

[bgrasser]

Florida is and always will be a Snowbird's playground.

[Dave_n_Tenn]

Originally Posted by bgrasser

Florida is and always will be a Snowbird's playground.

... and that's Ok. Enjoy our weather, our water, our beautiful parks, our incredible outdoor wonders and leave nothing but your footprints and you can have our memories.

Look at all those people enjoying the unfit for human conditions for Independence day. The national anthem was sang by all and it was loud and proud!