[Red3311]

People keep saying "oh its 75% rural" until it isnt. That used to be the same traffic argument by northerners: "oh traffic isnt as bad as [insert ****hole city here] then traffic in our FL cities became the same or worse. As long as there are naive people that cheer for the destruction of our state and keep building acres of stripmalls on preserve, the state will forever be destroyed by man's greed.

Originally Posted by jambo101

The warm and sunny all the time factor coupled with beaches can get many to overlook any inconveniences Florida might have

Another inaccurate statement used by cheerleaders...Many people will move down here and by year 3 or 4 only goto the beach ONCE a year or so. FL is like any other place in the country except its extremely hot for 5 months out of the year. Elderly people cant take it its so hot so that is why we have snowbirds. Couple that in with the overcrowding, the crime and multiple other factors like 25% of drivers that have no insurance and low wages, and STRESS LEVELS are some of the worst in the country.

[EugeneOnegin]

Originally Posted by jambo101

The warm and sunny all the time factor coupled with beaches can get many to overlook any inconveniences Florida might have

My comment was in response to his hypothetical dystopian nightmare Florida that has 50-75 million residents and cities with population densities of 30k+. I wasn't talking about present-day Florida.

[kyle19125]

Originally Posted by LordHomunculus

I do know that in 2012, Florida is one of the densest states. But I wouldn't know what number would be considered crowded (maybe NJ?).

List of U.S. states by population density - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A state can be among the densest without using up anywhere near it's geographic capacity if residents tend to settle near others, versus spreading out which is certainly the case here. I don't agree that it's 75% rural here as mentioned earlier, but would hazard a guess at 50% if one has any knowledge of varying regions of the state. There is a massive quantity of undeveloped/uninhabited land in Florida, much of it not considered inhabitable which is why we have the "high density" ranking.

[Red3311]

Originally Posted by kyle19125

There is a massive quantity of undeveloped/uninhabited land in Florida, much of it not considered inhabitable which is why we have the "high density" ranking.

If developers can make $$$ on it, they will find a way dont worry

[OptimusPrime69]

You have a lot of people living in the state but it seems more crowded cuz of all the added tourists that visit as well.
amirite or amirite?

[LIFL]

Originally Posted by Red3311

People keep saying "oh its 75% rural" until it isnt. That used to be the same traffic argument by northerners: "oh traffic isnt as bad as [insert ****hole city here] then traffic in our FL cities became the same or worse. As long as there are naive people that cheer for the destruction of our state and keep building acres of stripmalls on preserve, the state will forever be destroyed by man's greed.





Another inaccurate statement used by cheerleaders...Many people will move down here and by year 3 or 4 only goto the beach ONCE a year or so. FL is like any other place in the country except its extremely hot for 5 months out of the year. Elderly people cant take it its so hot so that is why we have snowbirds. Couple that in with the overcrowding, the crime and multiple other factors like 25% of drivers that have no insurance and low wages, and STRESS LEVELS are some of the worst in the country.

IMO, urbanization is good. But not this FL sprawl, patch as you go style FL has taken on. I also think that there is enough land that you don't have to destroy preserves for development.

[kyle19125]

Originally Posted by Red3311

If developers can make $$$ on it, they will find a way dont worry

Doubtful, the "boom" is long over. I think from here on out for quite awhile we'll be seeing infill development versus the massively-scaled new projects in low density areas we had seen in the 90s and 00s.

[mortpes]

Yes Florida has serious problems. Avoid.

[Fletchman]

I grew up in Florida and I hope large areas can be preserved in their natural state. It's too bad that development is seen as a 'cure' to our problems when it only is making things worse.

I think development should be much slower in the years ahead compared to the '90s. I think a lot of younger people don't want to live in the suburbs and there will be more infill development. It's also going to be more expensive to buy land and also to finance home construction going forward.

[kyle19125]

Originally Posted by isles20

IMO, urbanization is good. But not this FL sprawl, patch as you go style FL has taken on. I also think that there is enough land that you don't have to destroy preserves for development.

I agree and hopefully the obsession with "all things new" will eventually wear off here. It really is odd to consistently hear people in this state describe something built in the 90s as "old".