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Old 03-06-2008, 08:34 AM
 
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I'm writing this for all those 22-40 year old married or single professionals who have traveled quite a bit, consider themselves cultured, and have lived in at least two parts of the US/world already: If you are considering moving to Gainesville, Florida, DO NOT DO IT. This is a horrible place, incredibly boring, and somewhat of an enigma since it appears to be diverse because of the university, but yet EVERYONE IS THE SAME (even the "alternative people"). So far, I have lived in CA (LA, Santa Barbara, and San Fran), NYC, NJ (Hoboken), TN (Nashville), FL (Gville and Orlando), IL (Chicago), CO (Denver) and Madrid, Spain and this place is BY FAR the worst place I have ever experienced. And, sadly, I spent the best young hip years of my life in this hell hole (25-30). People who live here will tell you the following "positive" aspects of Gville, which I will debunk one by one. 1) "It's a great place to raise a family" - no, it isn't. It's disturbingly racist (from all sides), the crime is really bad and not like typical urban crime...scary rural crime, and it's like raising children in a bubble. All they do is socialize with the same people, do the same things over and over, and see the SAME stuff year in and year out - NO preperation for the real world. Yes, people think it's safe and that their children are protected, but they confuse this "protection" with putting their kids in a bubble of sameness. 2) "UF Gator Spirit is Contageous" - at first, yes. Then it only becomes annoying because you realize that 90% of the people in Gville went to UF and have never "grown up." They still tailgate every weekend, their lives revolve around the games, and in my opinion, it's really sad to see adults, ages 26-90 (yes 90) partying with the college kids. They have nothing else going on and it's sad. I have no objection to having school spirit, but COME ON! Find something else to occupy your time other than a dream you once had and now are too old for. 3) "It's a beautiful city with great nature" - no, it really isn't. Maybe it's me, but all I see is overgrown brush and marshlands and spanish moss hanging off everything. After living in NJ, CA, and CO, Gville is NOT aesthetically pleasing (and for those who are wondering about NJ...if you actually have lived there and know the state, you know what I'm talking about). The nature hikes suck in Gville too...it's Florida...which is synonomyous with FLAT. 4) "Gville is a big city with a small town feel" - NO and NO. It is NOT a big city. It probably has THE worst urban planning I have EVER seen. The traffic is ridiculous and there are NO back roads to get anywhere. I think the motto here when traffic gets bad is "add another traffic light"??? I could at least appreciate small town charm, but Gville doesn't even have that. There are not any cute "boutique shops" or mom and pop restaurants (and believe me, I've tried it all...even the places people have sworn are "the best secrets" like Satchels and many more I can name, and sorry, NO NO NO NO!). Everything is chain chain chain and those who think downtown is charming have not really seen a real downtown. Gville's downtown is dirty, disgusting, and BORING!!! And, as a sidebar, this town has THE WORST FOOD I've ever had anywhere. Seriously. It's terrible. Everywhere. 5) "The weather is great" - ok. This is definitely up for debate. I hate the weather here because in my opinion there are no seasons and it's HOT all the time. But, I seem to be in the minority on this one. The town is smack in the middle of the state and 80% of the year, it's stifling hot. This does not make me smile. 6) "The people are sooo nice" - I'm on the fence about this one because yes, the people are nice. However, I've experienced more often than not, that this "niceness" is also fake. Lots of smiles and waves, but also lots of whispering and backstabbing. And check your honesty and sarcasm at the door because they are NOT appreciated here. You are better off just smiling and nodding like everyone else. There is definteily an eschelan of those who think they are upperclass here (the yuppies raising families here who also went to UF and never left). This is very annoying and if you move here from anywhere else (especially the North), you will ALWAYS be an outsider and plan on losing any anonymity you have. Everyone is all up in YOUR **** and everyone else's ****. It's like highschool for adults. Lots of whispering... 7) "It's a great place to meet someone" - NO IT IS NOT. If you are over 25, you are in NO MAN'S LAND. And GOD help you if you are over 30 and single...especially if you are female. Everyone looks at you as if you are some pity case. And, they are always ready to set you up with their friends who are on their second marriage (at least), who always end up being psycho, and who make it clear that they never want to leave Gville. It's a nightmare here to date as a single person. You should just sign up for every online dating service you can within a 200 mile radius (at least) of this town and you might get lucky...

Okay, so that about covers the major stuff. I can go on, but I'm sure I've already acquired some haters because, in addition to the above, you are NOT allowed to speak out against Gville and have a different opinion without being bombarded with negative and nasty comments. So I expect them. It's okay. I"m used to it. I will say here at the end that OF COURSE what I write sounds like generalizations and hey, they may be. But I've been here five years (moving by Spring THANK GOD!!!!) and everything I have mentioned above, I have experienced first hand and have heard the same complaints from others. As I wrote above, I have lived many places and traveled to about eight times those places all over the world, and I always LOVE to experience new people, cultures, and places. I felt that way when I ventured down here, and I still feel that way moving on to my next city. But, I have never left a place saying "I HATE IT HERE and can't wait to leave" until I moved here. But, hey, maybe I'm the problem...I seem to be since most of those I talk to love it here...everyone except those of my friends and family who visit...they can't wait to leave too....
I have to say that I absolutely agree with everything that was said. I'm getting out of Gainesville, too, and I will never, ever be back here. What an absolute pit of a place. I think a lot of it has to do with 1) having been a lot of places besides Gainesville in my life 2) being from the northern states where there actually IS culture instead of 6 pieces at the Harn museum. I can't wait to get out of town and anyone who has any ambition to do anything with their lives will get out too.
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Old 03-06-2008, 08:57 AM
 
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Gainesville's truly devastated.
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Old 03-09-2008, 08:30 PM
 
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Gainesville's truly devastated.
yes it is...and probably will be more so with the next hurricane.
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Old 03-09-2008, 08:58 PM
 
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I'm writing this for all those 22-40 year old married or single professionals who have traveled quite a bit, consider themselves cultured, and have lived in at least two parts of the US/world already: If you are considering moving to Gainesville, Florida, DO NOT DO IT. This is a horrible place, incredibly boring, and somewhat of an enigma since it appears to be diverse because of the university, but yet EVERYONE IS THE SAME (even the "alternative people"). So far, I have lived in CA (LA, Santa Barbara, and San Fran), NYC, NJ (Hoboken), TN (Nashville), FL (Gville and Orlando), IL (Chicago), CO (Denver) and Madrid, Spain and this place is BY FAR the worst place I have ever experienced. And, sadly, I spent the best young hip years of my life in this hell hole (25-30). People who live here will tell you the following "positive" aspects of Gville, which I will debunk one by one.
1) "It's a great place to raise a family" - no, it isn't. It's disturbingly racist (from all sides), the crime is really bad and not like typical urban crime...scary rural crime, and it's like raising children in a bubble. All they do is socialize with the same people, do the same things over and over, and see the SAME stuff year in and year out - NO preperation for the real world. Yes, people think it's safe and that their children are protected, but they confuse this "protection" with putting their kids in a bubble of sameness.
2) "UF Gator Spirit is Contageous" - at first, yes. Then it only becomes annoying because you realize that 90% of the people in Gville went to UF and have never "grown up." They still tailgate every weekend, their lives revolve around the games, and in my opinion, it's really sad to see adults, ages 26-90 (yes 90) partying with the college kids. They have nothing else going on and it's sad. I have no objection to having school spirit, but COME ON! Find something else to occupy your time other than a dream you once had and now are too old for.
3) "It's a beautiful city with great nature" - no, it really isn't. Maybe it's me, but all I see is overgrown brush and marshlands and spanish moss hanging off everything. After living in NJ, CA, and CO, Gville is NOT aesthetically pleasing (and for those who are wondering about NJ...if you actually have lived there and know the state, you know what I'm talking about). The nature hikes suck in Gville too...it's Florida...which is synonomyous with FLAT.
4) "Gville is a big city with a small town feel" - NO and NO. It is NOT a big city. It probably has THE worst urban planning I have EVER seen. The traffic is ridiculous and there are NO back roads to get anywhere. I think the motto here when traffic gets bad is "add another traffic light"??? I could at least appreciate small town charm, but Gville doesn't even have that. There are not any cute "boutique shops" or mom and pop restaurants (and believe me, I've tried it all...even the places people have sworn are "the best secrets" like Satchels and many more I can name, and sorry, NO NO NO NO!). Everything is chain chain chain and those who think downtown is charming have not really seen a real downtown. Gville's downtown is dirty, disgusting, and BORING!!! And, as a sidebar, this town has THE WORST FOOD I've ever had anywhere. Seriously. It's terrible. Everywhere.
5) "The weather is great" - ok. This is definitely up for debate. I hate the weather here because in my opinion there are no seasons and it's HOT all the time. But, I seem to be in the minority on this one. The town is smack in the middle of the state and 80% of the year, it's stifling hot. This does not make me smile.
6) "The people are sooo nice" - I'm on the fence about this one because yes, the people are nice. However, I've experienced more often than not, that this "niceness" is also fake. Lots of smiles and waves, but also lots of whispering and backstabbing. And check your honesty and sarcasm at the door because they are NOT appreciated here. You are better off just smiling and nodding like everyone else. There is definteily an eschelan of those who think they are upperclass here (the yuppies raising families here who also went to UF and never left). This is very annoying and if you move here from anywhere else (especially the North), you will ALWAYS be an outsider and plan on losing any anonymity you have. Everyone is all up in YOUR **** and everyone else's ****. It's like highschool for adults. Lots of whispering...
7) "It's a great place to meet someone" - NO IT IS NOT. If you are over 25, you are in NO MAN'S LAND. And GOD help you if you are over 30 and single...especially if you are female. Everyone looks at you as if you are some pity case. And, they are always ready to set you up with their friends who are on their second marriage (at least), who always end up being psycho, and who make it clear that they never want to leave Gville. It's a nightmare here to date as a single person. You should just sign up for every online dating service you can within a 200 mile radius (at least) of this town and you might get lucky...

Okay, so that about covers the major stuff. I can go on, but I'm sure I've already acquired some haters because, in addition to the above, you are NOT allowed to speak out against Gville and have a different opinion without being bombarded with negative and nasty comments. So I expect them. It's okay. I"m used to it. I will say here at the end that OF COURSE what I write sounds like generalizations and hey, they may be. But I've been here five years (moving by Spring THANK GOD!!!!) and everything I have mentioned above, I have experienced first hand and have heard the same complaints from others. As I wrote above, I have lived many places and traveled to about eight times those places all over the world, and I always LOVE to experience new people, cultures, and places. I felt that way when I ventured down here, and I still feel that way moving on to my next city. But, I have never left a place saying "I HATE IT HERE and can't wait to leave" until I moved here. But, hey, maybe I'm the problem...I seem to be since most of those I talk to love it here...everyone except those of my friends and family who visit...they can't wait to leave too....
Almost everything you've described about UF and Gainesville just accurately describes how the university and college city where I am is. Racist and socialist polarization at this college is so bad, it'll probably make Gainesville look like Berkeley. A serious crime (shooting, robbery, rape, etc.) occurs here at least once a day. School spirit is so extremist that if you're caught not wearing "T(w)erps" gear or are not harassing fans from the opposing team, you're seen as a farce (hope this gives you clue to which university I'm talking about). The campus look itself is aesthetically decent, but the surrounding towns, including the college town itself, is a true wreck.
Everyone lives for the weekend (or not uncommonly, weeknight) parties and bar-hopping, and it's the main topic at the water cooler (i.e. classes). The weather isn't 80 % heat, but it sucks in its own ways (winter cold with no snow, summer heat AND humidity, etc.). The peer students here are some of the most rudest and snobbish individuals I've ever seen in my entire life (and I'm only 21). And unless you know someone already from before college or came w/ high school friends, or are a mad partier and fan of the school team, don't count on meeting new people (or in the cases that you do meet people, don't count on them to become close friends).

But I guess I can sleep w/ some comfort knowing that the hardcore lovers of this state school are pissed since their beloved college basketball team just screwed up their chance to get into the March Madness Tournament.
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Old 03-10-2008, 09:11 AM
 
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Come to Tallahassee... the topography is more hilly and green and we have good ma and pa places, it's clean, we actually have a cute little downtown area... the colleges are centralized and kept in their own little areas, with all the family areas spread out around it. I've been living here for five years after I graduated college and became a teacher... and I've managed to avoid the one college "strip" for the majority of my time!!! It's amazing.. we just need more of a night life for us older folks! Other than that, if I have to move, it's simply job opportunity... because I've been living here since I was 16 and it'd break my heart to have to live in some other Florida hell hole!


That's because unlike Gainesville, there is a lot more going on than just FSU and FAMU. Gainesville is a College Town. Tallahassee is a medium-sized city that happens to have two major state universities located in it. Once you get away from the "student district" you realize there is a whole city out there. Most 4-year students never bother to look beyond Apalachee Parkway, Monroe Street and the areas adjoining campus.

And that's actually a good thing....
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Old 03-10-2008, 09:16 AM
 
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yes it is...and probably will be more so with the next hurricane.

Being that it is situated in the middle of the state, I kind of doubt that.

But this is from someone that thinks culture stops at the Mason-Dixon line, so I guess your geography isn't so good either.
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Old 03-10-2008, 09:56 AM
 
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Hilarious.
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Old 03-10-2008, 05:20 PM
 
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Being that it is situated in the middle of the state, I kind of doubt that.

But this is from someone that thinks culture stops at the Mason-Dixon line, so I guess your geography isn't so good either.
haha..........
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Old 03-11-2008, 08:36 AM
 
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Being that it is situated in the middle of the state, I kind of doubt that.

But this is from someone that thinks culture stops at the Mason-Dixon line, so I guess your geography isn't so good either.
actually...hurricanes frances and jean made an impact on gainesville so being in the middle of the state doesn't really mean much if the hurricane is headed in the right direction. (psstt....culture stops at the florida/georgia border)
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Old 03-12-2008, 07:55 AM
 
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actually...hurricanes frances and jean made an impact on gainesville so being in the middle of the state doesn't really mean much if the hurricane is headed in the right direction. (psstt....culture stops at the florida/georgia border)

As if it would be "wiped off the map".

Psst...your ignorance and prejudice are showing.
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