[bmw335xi]

Originally Posted by bale002

Trains in Europe are not cost effective, they are heavily subsidized. Not saying that is necessarily a bad thing, but the fact is that ticket prices do not reflect actual cost.

My understanding is that All Aboard Florida ticket prices from Miami to Orlando will be $143 one way, so almost six times $25.

The train speed is 79-125 mph. That is not fast at all. With stops and wait times, certainly no faster than a car.

Moreover, once you reach destination, what do you do? Get in a car? Where can you walk to?

Please.


I hope I am wrong, but I do not see how All Aboard Florida will be commercially successful.

Yes, it is a great idea, but from the very beginning I always wondered in practical terms what are they really up to.

The stations in South Florida are all centrally located, you can walk, uber easily to many points of interest. The main issue will be the price. When I go to Miami, I just leave my car in the garage and just uber pool everywhere, so I'd love to not have to drive and pay expensive overnight parking. However, if the cost is what you said there is no way in hell I will use it lol.

[aridon]

This is going to be a giant waste of money unfortunately.

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Originally Posted by aridon

This is going to be a giant waste of money unfortunately.

How do you figure?

[expatCA]

Check ticket prices here

All Aboard Florida releases preliminary ticket prices

All Aboard Florida’s ticket prices would range from $11 for a one-way ride between Miami and Ft. Lauderdale to $143 for a business-class fare between Miami and Orlando under a plan to “optimize” revenues, according to a ridership and revenue study made public by the company Thursday.


2020 Forecast
Short Distance (between Miami, Ft. Lauderdale and West Palm Beach)
Ridership: 2.8 million
Fare Revenue: $64.1 million
Long Distance (between southeast Florida and Orlando)
Ridership: 2.5 million
Fare revenue: $229.4 million
2020 total
Ridership: 5.3 million
Fare revenue: $293.6 million
All Aboard Florida’s “optimized” fares
West Palm Beach to Orlando
Regular fare: $66.21
Business fare: $99.32
Ft. Lauderdale to Orlando
Regular fare: $82.76
Business fare: $126.91
Miami to Orlando
Regular fare: $93.80
Business fare: $143.46

[floridarebel]

Not enough. We need high speed rail. Even China has high speed. Tickets should be heavily subsidized.

[Crane's Rooster]

Originally Posted by expatCA

Check ticket prices here

All Aboard Florida releases preliminary ticket prices

All Aboard Florida’s ticket prices would range from $11 for a one-way ride between Miami and Ft. Lauderdale to $143 for a business-class fare between Miami and Orlando under a plan to “optimize” revenues, according to a ridership and revenue study made public by the company Thursday.


2020 Forecast
Short Distance (between Miami, Ft. Lauderdale and West Palm Beach)
Ridership: 2.8 million
Fare Revenue: $64.1 million
Long Distance (between southeast Florida and Orlando)
Ridership: 2.5 million
Fare revenue: $229.4 million
2020 total
Ridership: 5.3 million
Fare revenue: $293.6 million
All Aboard Florida’s “optimized” fares
West Palm Beach to Orlando
Regular fare: $66.21
Business fare: $99.32
Ft. Lauderdale to Orlando
Regular fare: $82.76
Business fare: $126.91
Miami to Orlando
Regular fare: $93.80
Business fare: $143.46

These prices aren't bad for a business traveler when you consider 1. Not having to rent a vehicle or use your own vehicle, 2. The work you could be getting done instead of just driving time, 3. Not having to pay for parking which in DT Miami can run up to $25 for just a few hours, and 4. Not having to deal with the frustration that is I95 and Turnpike in SFL. The last reason alone is enough to entice me. I can't recall how many times I've been late to meetings in Miami or Ft. Laudy because of an accident on the highway.

[expatCA]

Originally Posted by floridarebel

Not enough. We need high speed rail. Even China has high speed. Tickets should be heavily subsidized.

So everyone can pay for the ones who ride it??????? Why?

What real good does it do if not enough people chose to ride it?

[Restrain]

These always run a deficit, have fewer users, and costs more. They cite the budge, but it costs millions per mile to upgrade the lines to transit quality. I have seen the bureaucrats say they are a success, citing specious user numbers, but always run a deficit.

Who actually succeed with these projects? The construction companies, the suppliers, and the politicians who get kickbacks in the form of 'campaign contributions' from the same.

[iMarvin]

Originally Posted by expatCA

So everyone can pay for the ones who ride it??????? Why?

What real good does it do if not enough people chose to ride it?

Well... that's already how highways work.

[double6's]

as the population steadily increases we need fewer cars and more trains...everywhere..ALL ABOARD!!!!