[Jo48]

Having lived in and worked in Florida Public Schools for 10 years, IMHO the answer is NO. It is too ingrained in the populace.

[Jimbo302]

Originally Posted by chopchop0

Apply the same standard to gun owners, including those who have a ccw in public. Victims should be able to sue gun owners who don't properly secure their weapons and them to be misused in public. Hence the need for liability insurance. Sandy Hook was a clear example

Why are gun nuts so inconsistent about guns vs other objects that can be used to kill?

Yeah, you dont seem to understand what liability insurance is.

[Jimbo302]

Originally Posted by chopchop0

Except it's true. Mass shootings decreased under the AWB in the 90s

The 94awb was nonsense and effectively banned only accessories, while shootings in the US increased. Even the commissioned studies concluded there was no measurable effect.

[chopchop0]

Originally Posted by Jimbo302

Yeah, you dont seem to understand what liability insurance is.

No you want to be hypocritical about where you apply it

Originally Posted by Jimbo302

The 94awb was nonsense and effectively banned only accessories, while shootings in the US increased. Even the commissioned studies concluded there was no measurable effect.

You're purposely ignoring or lying wrt mass shootings.

https://tcf.org/content/commentary/t...ass-shootings/

If we look from September 2004 all the way back to 1900 (104 years), as the Washington Post lays out, there were 118 mass shootings. That breaks down to 1.13 mass shooting incidents per year, on average, from 1900 to 2004. In the eight years since the Assault Weapons Ban has expired, there have been 28 mass shooting events. That equals an average of 3.5 a year—an increase of over 200 percent. That is a startling jump, by any measure.

[Jimbo302]

Originally Posted by chopchop0

No you want to be hypocritical about where you apply it



You're purposely ignoring or lying wrt mass shootings.

https://tcf.org/content/commentary/t...ass-shootings/

If we look from September 2004 all the way back to 1900 (104 years), as the Washington Post lays out, there were 118 mass shootings. That breaks down to 1.13 mass shooting incidents per year, on average, from 1900 to 2004. In the eight years since the Assault Weapons Ban has expired, there have been 28 mass shooting events. That equals an average of 3.5 a year—an increase of over 200 percent. That is a startling jump, by any measure.

Seriously? This is comical.

[chopchop0]

Originally Posted by Jimbo302

Seriously? This is comical.

Yes, the hypocrisy and refusal to believe facts from right wing gun nuts is comically sad

[vanquishedagain]

"Assault" rifles (not a thing) account for less than a percent of all murders. More people are killed with bare hands and knives than are killed with any rifle. This won't change florida politics, nobody is talking about it. Nobody cares. Anyone with a brain knows that this was a failure of the security officer to do his job, a failure of the doors being properly locked and yet another mentally unstable youth who exhibited many warning signs and should not have been in the general public.

A person who seeks to do evil will find a way to do evil in any free society.

[boxus]

Despite the term "assault weapon ban" they were in fact not banned, and people were free to own, sell, and purchase them.

[nep321]

Sadly, I don't expect Parkland to have an impact at all. Florida is just a *very* backward state with too many gun obsessed people that think guns are more important than public safety and children. It's sad. It really is. God forbid if we learn from other countries like Japan, which had only 6 gun deaths in the entire last year. However, I do believe that in time, Americans will have change, because millennials and generation Z are taking over fast. The 2020 election will be the first U.S. election ever where millennials and generation Z voters will easily outnumber baby boomers. So there's hope.

[chopchop0]

Originally Posted by nep321

Sadly, I don't expect Parkland to have an impact at all. Florida is just a *very* backward state with too many gun obsessed people that think guns are more important than public safety and children. It's sad. It really is. God forbid if we learn from other countries like Japan, which had only 6 gun deaths in the entire last year. However, I do believe that in time, Americans will have change, because millennials and generation Z are taking over fast. The 2020 election will be the first U.S. election ever where millennials and generation Z voters will easily outnumber baby boomers. So there's hope.

Gun nuts live in a different fact-free world than the rest of us and will ignore examples like Japan and Australia.

Kinda like hardcore trump voters, but I digress