[WRnative]

This massive sewage spill in Fort Lauderdale made the NBC National News this weekend. Similar risks exist elsewhere Florida as corrosive sea water increasingly impacts waste water infrastructure.

https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news...ns-78907973853

It sounds as if Fort Lauderdale has neglected its aging infrastructure for many years. This may be a state-wide problem, especially given the widely reported need to replace the state's many septic tanks with sewage systems.

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/b...zga-story.html

Climate change reportedly compounds the problem of aging infrastructure.

<<But something important has been lost in the stinking mess: Most of it isn’t actually poop or other flushed stuff. More than half of the volume flowing through the city’s crumbling sewage infrastructure is actually groundwater seeping in through the many, many cracks and holes in the aging system.

And it’s another problem for coastal communities that climate change is making worse: sea rise is soaking metal pipes in salty, corrosive water, and flooding from more frequent high tides pushes up through the ground, collecting that leaked sewage as it floods streets and parks....

One thing nearly everyone agrees: sea level rise is making the problem worse.
Fort Lauderdale, like the rest of South Florida, is planning on more than two feet of sea rise by 2060. That’s enough to flood 15 pump stations and 220 manholes, according to a city report.
As seas rise, the ground around these pipes is soggy more often than not. That wet, salty dirt eats at the pipes, and the jostling up-and-down motion of the tides loosens their joints.

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/loc...239005633.html

Note that Fort Lauderdale, despite its decrepit infrastructure, refuses to put a moratorium on development.

Note also that this is NOT just a Fort Lauderdale problem, as the state has experienced even larger sewage spills than the one now impacting Fort Lauderdale. Florida has hundreds of billions of dollars in deferred sewage infrastructure spending upgrades.

https://www.jacksonville.com/news/20...e-of-florida/1

[City Guy997S]

The 50 year old pipes are simply overwhelmed. Sea rise is a totally separate issue.

Think of East Ft Lauderdale in the 70s. There were no 5,000 sq ft homes, today every single new build is 5000+ sq ft. 4-5 baths vs. 2/maybe 3 back then. All of these houses need water/sewage! Now add in condos, hundreds of new residences where a warehouse with 2-3 bathrooms once sat. Now that 250 unit building just brought on 250 washers/kitchens and 500+ bathrooms on a lot that once had 2-3 bathrooms that were only used during the work week (40 hours).

I love East Ft Laud but I'd never buy anything there in the next 10 years. The sewer issue is going to be a nightmare for the residents AND it is going to get really expensive. Even long after the construction is over the bills will still be there on some 30 year bond or higher taxes/water bills (or maybe all three!).

[Arcenal813]

Sea rise? This happened downtown Orlando too, and we’re as far from the sea as you can get. It has everything to do with what the poster above stated: old metal pipes and overuse.

[Corrie22]

some troll from Cleveland constantly spamming the Florida forum...

Sea level rise in Florida has not changed in over 100 years....it is exactly the same...global warming has had no effect on sea level rise in Florida at all

Global warming has been going on for over 50 years....sea level rise was less than 1 inch a decade 50 years ago
...and it is still less than 1 inch now....global warming has not changed it one bit

..it's less than 1 inch a decade...less than 1 inch in 10 years.......9 inches in 100 years

in over 50 years....scientists...have been predicting sea level rise in Florida will increase
they were wrong 50 years ago....they are still wrong now...it has not changed

https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/sl...tml?id=8724580

[chopchop0]

Originally Posted by Corrie22

some troll from Cleveland constantly spamming the Florida forum...

Sea level rise in Florida has not changed in over 100 years....it is exactly the same...global warming has had no effect on sea level rise in Florida at all

Global warming has been going on for over 50 years....sea level rise was less than 1 inch a decade 50 years ago
...and it is still less than 1 inch now....global warming has not changed it one bit

..it's less than 1 inch a decade...less than 1 inch in 10 years.......9 inches in 100 years

in over 50 years....scientists...have been predicting sea level rise in Florida will increase
they were wrong 50 years ago....they are still wrong now...it has not changed

https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/sl...tml?id=8724580

Climate change denier. Tell all those folks in South Beach during King tides

[WRnative]

Originally Posted by City Guy997S

The 50 year old pipes are simply overwhelmed. Sea rise is a totally separate issue.

Not according to the linked articles, and as specifically quoted.

[Corrie22]

Originally Posted by chopchop0

Climate change denier. Tell all those folks in South Beach during King tides

...would you prefer to just b**** slap me?...

King tides have been flooding that small area of South Beach since Fisher paved the road in the '20's

It went to the Tolleson's farm...first they tried to grow avocado....salt water flooding killed the avocado
...they planted coconuts..salt tolerant...and made a fortune selling them to Fisher for landscaping

Fisher bought the road to their farm....which was dredged out bay bottom fill and never compacted...named it Alton Rd...never elevated it because he was in a hurry to get the trolleys to Lincoln Rd and his new hotel

..that was 100 years ago...sea level has risen less than 4 inches

Are king tides worse...of course....that small area is still compacting...and sea level has risen less than 4 inches

But global warming has had no effect on the rate of sea level rise...it's is still the same

There's a reason all those old buildings and hotels are all built up higher than the street....

[cfbs2691]

I have an acquaintance who’s a retired engineer.
He worked for the city of Ft Lauderdale and told them 30 years ago that they needed to start replacing the sewer lines. He was told that the money collected (taxes) for the sewage system was being used to pay the fire and police department.
Thanks to ALL our crooked politicians over the years.... our taxes will skyrocket to pay for this disaster. Even though we already paid for it. Disgusting.

[beach43ofus]

Originally Posted by cfbs2691

I have an acquaintance who’s a retired engineer.
He worked for the city of Ft Lauderdale and told them 30 years ago that they needed to start replacing the sewer lines. He was told that the money collected (taxes) for the sewage system was being used to pay the fire and police department.
Thanks to ALL our crooked politicians over the years.... our taxes will skyrocket to pay for this disaster. Even though we already paid for it. Disgusting.

Police and Fire pensions are to blame.

[beach43ofus]

Glad I built in an all new area so I dont have to be concerned.

When I was renting in an older area, (Palmer Ranch in Sarasota County) they had a private contractor spraying a non-corrosive coating inside all their sewer pipes. It was supposed to extend the life of the sewer lines by 20 years.