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Old 09-23-2010, 09:29 PM
 
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Production workers at Hyundai's new $1 billion plant in Montgomery, Ala., will make $14 an hour to start. That may increase to as much as $21 an hour over two years. Most new production workers are hired as temps, what benefits you are talking about? Yup, "good wage" definition is definitely on the slide in good ole USA. Let's wait for Chinese automakers to move in and to make $7/hr a good wage
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Old 09-23-2010, 10:46 PM
 
Location: Floribama
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Production workers at Hyundai's new $1 billion plant in Montgomery, Ala., will make $14 an hour to start. That may increase to as much as $21 an hour over two years. Most new production workers are hired as temps, what benefits you are talking about? Yup, "good wage" definition is definitely on the slide in good ole USA. Let's wait for Chinese automakers to move in and to make $7/hr a good wage
The Hyundai plant is near Greenville, where you can get a decent house for $80k, so yes, $20 an hour is a good wage. And by benefits I mean good health insurance and 401k. I know several people that work there and they were not hired as temps.
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Old 09-23-2010, 11:27 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Nothing is unfair except being forced to join a group and pay dues as a condition of working in a certain job.
Right to work (for less) laws force Unions to spend their resources defending freeloaders. How is that fair?


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Hyundai in Alabama and Kia in Georgia are both non-union plants that pay good wages and provide excellent benefits. It's amazing how many people from MI and OH that were trying to move down here to get those jobs.
Those non-union employees only make those wages because of the courageous Union members who fought hard to raise the industry standards.

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Old 09-24-2010, 01:44 AM
 
Location: Tampa, Fl
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Those non-union employees only make those wages because of the courageous Union members who fought hard to raise the industry standards.
This. If it weren't for unions there would be no:
Underage labor laws
Retirement plans
401(k)
Vacation days
Holiday
Overtime

In other words, without unions to dictate labor laws, we'd have 14 year olds working factories and being replaced by younger kids when they, maybe, reach 20... No retirement plans, so, everyone would be broke.
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Old 09-24-2010, 06:38 AM
 
Location: Myrtle Beach
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Production workers at Hyundai's new $1 billion plant in Montgomery, Ala., will make $14 an hour to start. That may increase to as much as $21 an hour over two years. Most new production workers are hired as temps, what benefits you are talking about? Yup, "good wage" definition is definitely on the slide in good ole USA. Let's wait for Chinese automakers to move in and to make $7/hr a good wage

How much should these workers get paid?? Also, you don;t know what their benefit package is like which could easily increase what the company is paying them overall. Their $21/hr wage could be costing the company $35/hr is they have good benefits. I think getting a job for $21/hr with benefits for uneducated people living in Alabama is pretty good.
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Old 09-24-2010, 07:31 AM
 
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How much should these workers get paid?? Also, you don;t know what their benefit package is like which could easily increase what the company is paying them overall. Their $21/hr wage could be costing the company $35/hr is they have good benefits. I think getting a job for $21/hr with benefits for uneducated people living in Alabama is pretty good.
This.This.This. ^^^^
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Old 09-24-2010, 07:48 AM
 
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So your point? More desperate slave get a job by lowering his compensation expectations, thus desperation and willingness to take any object up your arse is a good survival strategy? Guess what, there is no clearly defined wage bottom owning class will be satisfied with, you will be always overpaid as far as employers are concerned.

If you are willing to take a hard object up your arse to survive a day, guess what, it will not stop at 10 inches deep, it will be getting into you deeper, deeper and deeper until your eyes pop out. Get ready and enjoy
Yeah that's why the non-union workers get wages comparable to the UAW workers

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Hyundai in Alabama and Kia in Georgia are both non-union plants that pay good wages and provide excellent benefits. It's amazing how many people from MI and OH that were trying to move down here to get those jobs.
Bingo.
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Old 09-24-2010, 07:50 AM
 
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Production workers at Hyundai's new $1 billion plant in Montgomery, Ala., will make $14 an hour to start. That may increase to as much as $21 an hour over two years. Most new production workers are hired as temps, what benefits you are talking about? Yup, "good wage" definition is definitely on the slide in good ole USA. Let's wait for Chinese automakers to move in and to make $7/hr a good wage
COL is lower in the south than states like MI, OH and upstate NY where many of the auto factories were traditionally located.
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Old 09-24-2010, 07:52 AM
 
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In other words, without unions to dictate labor laws, we'd have 14 year olds working factories and being replaced by younger kids when they, maybe, reach 20... No retirement plans, so, everyone would be broke.
Care to show me how unions created OSHA ***MOD CUT***

Oh wait --- Richard nixon signed it into law

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Old 09-24-2010, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Hernando, FL
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No, you can't. They are legal.
You're right about the non-competes, I have witnessed a Sheriff with a copy of non-compete in hand remove an individual from his new job.

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Another thing they can do is pay you minimum wage for whatever they owe you. So, if you were making $15/hr, they can pay you $6.79/hr for the reamining checks they owe you. I was on salary and the boss wanted me to do more hours without paying more. (not to mention, I was already full-time and didn't want more hours) I told him no, got my check and those additional hours he wanted me to do were deducted from my check. (16 hours) couldn't get the money back either.
You're right also, had it happen to me once. Actually they can get away with paying you nothing except when a company has over a certain amount of employees (say 30 for example) and they are involved in interstate commerce, then it becomes a federal matter so they elect to pay you min. wage.
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