[beachmouse]

Originally Posted by bbronston

I understand that 480,000 Americans die each year from smoking (one way or another.) That is not to minimize the impact of covid in ay way but it does give you a bit of perspective.

Note that many states have banned smoking in workplaces and public spaces, thus minimizing any negative effects from secondhand smoke, and could be called an early form of social distancing. The original smoking bans on airlines apparently were often pushed by flight attendant groups and unions who felt like the actions of smoking passengers were making them sick.

[bale002]

Originally Posted by bbronston

That is not to minimize the impact of covid in any way but it does give you a bit of perspective.

Let's keep in perspective that officially in the US, flu season is six months long, from October to March. CoViD-19 started here in February, so let's give it until August before we start making more meaningful comparisons.

Originally Posted by Corrie22

218 deaths.....out of over 21 million people

So far, compared to almost all other highly populated States, Florida is doing relatively well (Texas seems to be doing better). As mentioned, "only" 218 deaths and the daily percentage increase in total cases has been stable over the past six days at around 13%, so no sharp upward spikes but still high numbers, and the data on daily new cases are erratic, in part at least probably due to changes in testing methods and the quantity of testing. At the same time, hospital capacity seems to be adequate for the moment in most Florida counties.

As everyone knows, the next two weeks will be crucial.

Let's assume that officially reported cases reflect reality in some proportion (while hospitalizations and deaths are real numbers, see above). On that basis, Italy started to plateau at around 6000-7000 new cases per day into the third week of lock down and it has continued to plateau at around 4000-5000 new cases per day into the fourth week of lock down. Dade County is into its third week of lock down, hopefully daily new cases will plateau at no more than 500 by the end of this week, then go down noticeably afterwards.

[LKJ1988]

Blazing above normal temps is helping the state.

[WRnative]

<<The beach, in her estimation, is one of the most dangerous places to be these days, as the novel coronavirus marches silently across California.
Many beachgoers know they can suffer skin rashes, stomach illness and serious ear and respiratory infections if they go into the water within three days of a heavy rain, because of bacteria and pathogens washing off roads and into the ocean. Raw or poorly treated sewage entering the ocean also poses major health risks.
Prather fears that SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, could enter coastal waters in similar ways and transfer back into the air along the coast.>>

https://www.yahoo.com/news/coronavir...140029412.html

[on3]

Originally Posted by WRnative

<<The beach, in her estimation, is one of the most dangerous places to be these days, as the novel coronavirus marches silently across California.
Many beachgoers know they can suffer skin rashes, stomach illness and serious ear and respiratory infections if they go into the water within three days of a heavy rain, because of bacteria and pathogens washing off roads and into the ocean. Raw or poorly treated sewage entering the ocean also poses major health risks.
Prather fears that SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, could enter coastal waters in similar ways and transfer back into the air along the coast.>>

https://www.yahoo.com/news/coronavir...140029412.html

Correct. Going to any beach in the USA needs to be banned. We don't need to increase the rate of the spread of the virus because surfer dude is worried about being pitted in the next wave.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5ckCAUVOn0

[Charlie Allnut]

Originally Posted by on3

Correct. Going to any beach in the USA needs to be banned. We don't need to increase the rate of the spread of the virus because surfer dude is worried about being pitted in the next wave.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5ckCAUVOn0

Now that is funny!

[brightdoglover]

Originally Posted by Charlie Allnut

Now that is funny!

How articulate. Yow.

[beach43ofus]

Originally Posted by bbronston

I understand that 480,000 Americans die each year from smoking (one way or another.) That is not to minimize the impact of covid in any way but it does give you a bit of perspective.

Thx for the perspective. My Mother was a smoking fatality (COPD), and my Step Mother had stage 3 lung cancer (survived). Needless to say, after seeing death, and near death, up close, I've only ventured out 2 times in 22 days. I'm not going out for the next 10..at least.

Breathing difficulty is horrible. Stay home people.

[bbronston]

Originally Posted by beach43ofus

Thx for the perspective. My Mother was a smoking fatality (COPD), and my Step Mother had stage 3 lung cancer (survived). Needless to say, after seeing death, and near death, up close, I've only ventured out 2 times in 22 days. I'm not going out for the next 10..at least.

Breathing difficulty is horrible. Stay home people.

Sorry about your mom and step mom. My step dad also had COPD from smoking and it killed him. In fact, his experience might be an object lesson for today’s crisis. I cared about him but the truth is that he was arrogant about the risks of smoking. He would literally have a cigarette burning in two different rooms at the same time. He always had a cig going, morning to night and I have no doubt that I was exposed to a lot of second hand smoke as a result. We always tried to get him to stop, he knew the risks, but he didn’t believe he could be affected because he “didn’t inhale”. His end of life was anything but unaffected.

That same arrogance has undoubtedly caused the spread of covid19 and lots of needless deaths. #STFAH and wear a mask outside if you are in any place where there are other people.

[OpinionInOcala]

Originally Posted by bbronston

#STFAH