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Old 04-14-2020, 01:32 PM
 
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Old 04-20-2020, 06:05 PM
 
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CHICOM-19 guidelines...

Here are the official Coronavirus guidelines:

1. Basically, you can't leave the house for any reason, but if you have to, then you can.

2. Masks are useless, but maybe you have to wear one, it can save you, it is useless, but maybe it is mandatory as well.

3. Stores are closed, except those that are open.

4. You should not go to hospitals unless you have to go there. Same applies to doctors, you should only go there in case of emergency, provided you are not too sick.

5. This virus is deadly but still not too scary, except that sometimes it actually leads to a global disaster.

6. Gloves won't help, but they can still help.

7. Everyone needs to stay HOME, but it's important to GO OUT.

8. There is no shortage of groceries in the supermarket, but there are many things missing when you go there in the evening, but not in the morning. Sometimes.

9. The virus has no effect on children except those it affects.

10. Animals are not affected, but there is still a cat that tested positive in Belgium in February when no one had been tested, plus a few tigers here and there…

11. You will have many symptoms when you are sick, but you can also get sick without symptoms, have symptoms without being sick, or be contagious without having symptoms. Oh, my..

12. In order not to get sick, you have to eat well and exercise, but eat whatever you have on hand and it's better not to go out, well, but no…

13. It's better to get some fresh air, but you get looked at very wrong when you get some fresh air, and most importantly, you don't go to parks or walk. But don’t sit down, except that you can do that now if you are old, but not for too long or if you are pregnant (but not too old).

14. You can't go to retirement homes, but you have to take care of the elderly and bring food and medication.

15. If you are sick, you can't go out, but you can go to the pharmacy.

16. You can get restaurant food delivered to the house, which may have been prepared by people who didn't wear masks or gloves. But you have to have your groceries decontaminated outside for 3 hours. Pizza too?

17. Every disturbing article or disturbing interview starts with "I don't want to trigger panic, but…"

18. You can't see your older mother or grandmother, but you can take a taxi and meet an older taxi driver.

19. You can walk around with a friend but not with your family if they don't live under the same roof.

20. You are safe if you maintain the appropriate social distance, but you can’t go out with friends or strangers at the safe social distance.

21. The virus remains active on different surfaces for two hours, no, four, no, six, no, we didn't say hours, maybe days? But it takes a damp environment. Oh no, not necessarily.

22. The virus stays in the air - well no, or yes, maybe, especially in a closed room, in one hour a sick person can infect ten, so if it falls, all our children were already infected at school before it was closed. But remember, if you stay at the recommended social distance, however in certain circumstances you should maintain a greater distance, which, studies show, the virus can travel further, maybe.

23. We count the number of deaths but we don't know how many people are infected as we have only tested so far those who were "almost dead" to find out if that's what they will die of…

24. We have no treatment, except that there may be one that apparently is not dangerous unless you take too much (which is the case with all medications).

25. We should stay locked up until the virus disappears, but it will only disappear if we achieve collective immunity, so when it circulates… but we must no longer be locked up for that?
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Old 04-21-2020, 07:12 AM
 
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LOL, I just echoed this in another thread. The amount of information - good and bad - is absolutely dizzying to try and follow. I would feel better if everyone collectively threw up their hands in an "I don't have any idea" manner. At least then we'd have consensus.
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Old 04-21-2020, 10:36 AM
 
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Corrie summed it up correctly. Never have I read so much information in such a short time and walked away more confused.
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Old 04-21-2020, 01:22 PM
 
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"No benefit" from Trump Drug:

https://www.news4jax.com/business/20...q_IF_XcZjzUANs
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Old 04-23-2020, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Niceville, FL
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More than $240,000 has been refunded to Floridians from merchants found to be price-gouging during the State of Emergency:

https://cbs12.com/news/local/consume...ouging-refunds

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Items covered by Florida’s price-gouging law under the state of emergency include protective masks, sanitizing and disinfecting supplies, commercial cleaning supplies, personal protective equipment and COVID-19 test kits.
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Old 04-24-2020, 10:20 AM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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https://www.startribune.com/what-i-l...nia/569857042/

When to seek professional C-19 help? How to know it's C-19 w/o even having a test?

We should all have access to a PULSE OXIMETER mentioned in this article, so we can measure the amount of Oxygen in our blood upon any onset of health symptoms that we feel might be related to C-19.

People are suffering from low Oxygen levels without even knowing it. This can preceed shortness of breath. If C-19 can be spotted using an easily accessible device, we are no longer test-dependent in knowing we need to seek medical attention, and WHEN we need to seek it, and WHAT LEVEL of help we should seek (Doctor or Hospital).

Early on, Trump's Coronavirus Task Force said dont seek medical help unless you are having trouble breathing, but now I'm reading that people are waiting too long to get help because they are waiting until their breathing is distressed.

This device could detect the Oxygen level drop in your blood, so you can get meds to treat C-19 early on, before you have breathing difficulty, and have to go to a hopspital. I don't know what % Oxygen would mean seek medical help though...is it 70%, 60%?

Even if you take a test and it shows you have it, it wont tell you how far along it is, and how much its impacting your lungs ability to absorb Oxygen.

This device seems like a valuable tool we should all have access to ASAP...no?

AnasthesiaMD....are you ot there? Your thoughts?
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Old 04-24-2020, 10:29 AM
 
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Trump drug denounced by FDA as well:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/24/u...#link-18fcb343
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Old 04-24-2020, 11:07 AM
 
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no, the FDA did not denounce anything......the trials are still going on...hospitals are still using it...with the FDA approval

...the FDA issued a safety communication using the drugs outside of a hospital or clinical trial.... to be aware that it can cause heart problems

https://www.fda.gov/drugs/drug-safet...tal-setting-or
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Old 04-24-2020, 12:05 PM
 
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I consider the FDA issuing a warning on something denouncing it. If the FDA issued a health warning on Tyson chicken, you'd still eat Tyson chicken? Didn't think so.

Just clinging onto this magic Trump Drug dream, eh?

Maybe if you inject yourself with Lysol and UV rays, as President Trump suggested, you won't die of heart failure from his other suggestion, hydroxycloroquine.
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