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View Poll Results: Which do you prefer?
Ybor City 8 61.54%
Little Havana 5 38.46%
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Old 05-17-2020, 05:06 AM
 
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Yboring was always filled with drunks and teens. Never liked the area.
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Old 05-17-2020, 05:43 AM
 
Location: Not too far East of the Everglades
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Yboring was always filled with drunks and teens. Never liked the area.
Many PARTS of Little Havana are exactly the same, just in case.
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Old 05-17-2020, 06:37 AM
 
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The Tampa Cuban Sandwich with Salami in it is blasphemous.
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Old 05-17-2020, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Greater Orlampa CSA
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https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt...mi-for-the-win

...you mean the original? LOL ; )
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Old 05-17-2020, 09:06 PM
 
Location: Florida
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I've never been to Ybor City so I have to ask if it feels like you are in a ethnic neighborhood or is it more of a tourist spot?
When you are in Little Havana you can feel the Hispanic vibe.
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Old 05-17-2020, 10:39 PM
 
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I've never been to Ybor City so I have to ask if it feels like you are in a ethnic neighborhood or is it more of a tourist spot?

It's essentially a Cuban-American (increasingly less Cuban) combination of touristy downtown New Orleans and St. Augustine, but with fewer positives/uniqueness and less activities and locations of interest. That's not to say there is nothing redeemable about it, but it doesn't rise to the level of adding the experience to the 'bucket list' by any means. If you're within reasonable commute distance and want to have some food, visit a couple of shops, bar hop, and/or maybe see a concert at The Ritz, it's reasonably enjoyable for a day or two. I wouldn't recommend driving a nice vehicle or stopping anywhere for gas/groceries/knickknacks in the immediately surrounding residential neighborhoods for safety reasons, however.
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Old 05-18-2020, 05:16 AM
 
Location: Not too far East of the Everglades
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Never forget The Columbia Restaurant...



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Last edited by Huasho; 05-18-2020 at 06:42 AM..
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Old 05-18-2020, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Orlando area, FL
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I have been to Ybor City three times with visitors during the day. Yes, it has a few old buildings from its Cuban heydays but there is no Cuban vibe whatsoever. It looks run down and sleezy. The restaurants and bars all seem to be regular tourist places, mostly Anglo American. I will probably skip it with my next FL visitors.

Little Havana, however, is authentically Cuban. I was at the Calle Ocho Festival twice in the 1990s and a third time in 2007. That has changed a lot. It was great in the 1990s (many stages with world famous Latin artists and groups), but the last time I was there, there was basically only one stage with worthwhile concerts.

Apart from the Calle Ocho Festival, it has not changed much. Everytime we visit Miami, we go there for lunch the day we leave and eat at El Nuevo Siglo. This is a Cuban supermarket that was recommended to us by an old Cuban gentleman years ago when we asked him where one can eat good Cuban food. This supermarket has a lunch counter and 3 tables and the food is great! The atmosphere is very Cuban! We love it! The yuca con mojo is to die for!

Little Havana has many authentic Cuban restaurants and bakeries, Latin music stores, a few bars and clubs, a nice little park where old Cubans sometimes play dominoes, just like in Cuba.
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Old 05-18-2020, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Greater Orlampa CSA
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I'd say it's a combination. OpinioninOcala is onto something when comparing it with the French Quarter. I think it feels quite different from St. Augustine though-St. Augustine is much more obviously touristy and small-town oriented in it's built environment/style.

As for whether it's Cuban aesthetic wise, I'd say it's also sort of a combination... in the way that even the French Quarter is not completely French or Creole anymore even compared to some other areas of the city, in that same vein, West Tampa and the neighborhoods south and east of Raymond James, even though they don't look it, FEEL more Cuban and have more like businesses (La Teresita, etc.) than Ybor itself does.

However, I think it's also important to note that Ybor is "Latin" and "Ethnic" without necessarily being "Cuban" primarily, at least (German, Italian, etc. presence which went into the inclusion of salami on the Cuban): La Gaceta Newspaper I think this is interesting. It is the newspaper for the Ybor City community and those stakeholders that visit, etc. surrounding it, and it is the only trilingual newspaper in the US.

This is the Italian Club. I had a chance to go in, sample food, take a tour, and see what they are doing now. It formed as a mutual aid society, as did the Spanish, Cuban, and even German club in this vicinity.
https://italian-club.org/

https://tracesofspainintheus.org/tampa-fla/tampa/
Also to consider even the famed Columbia mentioned above is as Spanish in influence, etc as it is Cuban. They do flamenco shows, a very Spanish tradition. Remember, Cuba didn't fully become independent from Spain until 1902. Ybor had well over 10,000 residents by then, and Cuba's connection to the mother country had been longer and stronger, as well as those who emigrated from Spain itself.

There was even a historically black community immediately to the west of Ybor demolished by the freeways.
https://www.tampabay.com/news/Histor...st-_163741569/
It was considered the Harlem of the South, or one of a few places thought as such.

Tampa was considered unique in the south for how early it became relatively ethnically diverse and integrated. Obviously, things have changed quite a bit with time as other groups, identities, etc. have found there way into the neighborhood (in the same way, I might add, as has happened with the French Quarter and Little Havana). But.. there are definitely still tremendous traces of historical and modern legacy left throughout the neighborhood:

Definitely here: https://www.google.com/maps/@27.9622...7i16384!8i8192

Also here: https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/...-de-jose-marti

Though now sorta touristy.. certainly here: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ta...!1BCgIgARICCAI

And here: https://www.lasegundabakery.com/our-story

All that to say, you'd be more likely on average to hear a foreign tongue in Ybor than you probably would in St. Augustine for sure, and probably also in the French Quarter. You'd be much less likely to than in Little Havana, and that is where these two differ-Ybor has historically been much more diverse than just being Cuban (also Spanish, German, Italian, African American)-and that is still evident in the historical aesthetic, and the business mix present there now.
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Old 05-18-2020, 10:41 AM
 
Location: Greater Orlampa CSA
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I have been to Ybor City three times with visitors during the day. Yes, it has a few old buildings from its Cuban heydays but there is no Cuban vibe whatsoever. It looks run down and sleezy. The restaurants and bars all seem to be regular tourist places, mostly Anglo American. I will probably skip it with my next FL visitors.

Little Havana, however, is authentically Cuban. I was at the Calle Ocho Festival twice in the 1990s and a third time in 2007. That has changed a lot. It was great in the 1990s (many stages with world famous Latin artists and groups), but the last time I was there, there was basically only one stage with worthwhile concerts.

Apart from the Calle Ocho Festival, it has not changed much. Everytime we visit Miami, we go there for lunch the day we leave and eat at El Nuevo Siglo. This is a Cuban supermarket that was recommended to us by an old Cuban gentleman years ago when we asked him where one can eat good Cuban food. This supermarket has a lunch counter and 3 tables and the food is great! The atmosphere is very Cuban! We love it! The yuca con mojo is to die for!

Little Havana has many authentic Cuban restaurants and bakeries, Latin music stores, a few bars and clubs, a nice little park where old Cubans sometimes play dominoes, just like in Cuba.
Don't get me wrong-I see what you mean about a number of places along 7th Avenue. But there are still a fair number of gems in the immediate area, to be sure.

The one place on regular visit basis that Ybor truly has no answer for, I agree with you, is Domino Park... yeah you aren't wrong on that, the ambiance there is absolutely incredible and does feel like a Latin American public space or park in the City of Havana.
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