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Old 07-26-2020, 11:20 AM
 
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well but that was the way they are reporting deaths...not new cases
...but.....they way they are reporting cases is just as messed up
Some of it is you have to have symptoms or exposure to even be tested in the first place...they let people get out of line and don't adjust their records....then there's the inherent problems with the tests of showing false negatives and positives



In spite of all the hype and hysteria...this has nothing to do with DeSantis...this is just lazy sloppy people
...everything from the Fla Dept of Health...to the CDC....to hosps

..which should put the fear of God in anyone that goes to a hosp for anything
Isn’t he in charge of the dept of health? Can’t he make the hospitals report accurately by threatening to withhold funding. Exactly how does he have nothing to do with this and just about every other state does better? Does he also have nothing to do with the unemployment system being totally messed up? Some of these incompetent folks must be state employees.
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Old 07-26-2020, 11:47 AM
 
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I was hoping the reporting of the numbers was grossly inflated by the reporting agencies (not just the media) so Florida can get down to actual lower numbers. Are you saying the over 10K new cases being reported each day is a correct or incorrect number? Why is Florida usually 2 to 3 times higher than other states? This is what I can't understand and I know you have tried to explain it to me Corrie, thanks for that, I just can't get it.
If you want to talk about cases, Florida seems like the only state where people are willing to line up in their cars for 12 hours, just to get tested. (As reported by CNN) That would explain such a high number of cases. And heaven forbid somebody dies waiting in that line, because according to Orange County Health Officer Dr. Raul Pino one could use the argument that that person died from covid19 waiting in line to get tested. (Referring to the motorcycle crash death that was listed as a covid19 death)

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Old 07-26-2020, 01:36 PM
 
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If you want to talk about cases, Florida seems like the only state where people are willing to line up in their cars for 12 hours, just to get tested. (As reported by CNN) That would explain such a high number of cases. And heaven forbid somebody dies waiting in that line, because according to Orange County Health Officer Dr. Raul Pino one could use the argument that that person died from covid19 waiting in line to get tested. (Referring to the motorcycle crash death that was listed as a covid19 death)

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Well sure there is more testing being done in Florida, but I'm comparing populations too.

Florida population 21.5M, 12,199 new cases yesterday, 3.3M tests.
Texas population 29M, 7735 new cases, 3.6M tests.
Illinois population 12.7M, 1426 new cases, 2.5M tests.
NC 10.5M population, 2028 new cases, 1.6M tests.
Only CA beats FL, population 39.7M, 10,183 new cases, 7M tests.

I guess I should be happy that the #deaths in Florida per capita are low.
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Old 07-27-2020, 03:24 AM
 
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With this nutty logic, American officials should just wait until Dec, 31 of each year to report the millions of deaths in America and make it seem like it happened in that one day so Americans can have a scare every year just before the new year. Maybe shut down the entire next year to save the potential millions of death. Then reopen it back up and rinse and repeat. So every other year we can have a shutdown. I see no problem if it was done this way.
Daily, weekly, monthly, annually? It makes no difference. As long as the reporting is accurate, and allowing adequate time will assist that, what difference will it make? It can't really be made any simpler; some just look for things to complain about.
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Old 07-27-2020, 03:38 AM
 
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good grief....do you still not get it...or are you just pretending to not get it

If someone dies on 6/1....and they don't record it until a month later
...you don't pool and entire months of deaths and report them all as if they died on 7/1

you go back and record the death on 6/1 as dying on 6/1, and add it to 6/1

They pooled and entire months of deaths....reported them all as if they died on that one day

...and the crazy news media ran with it...."Florida record one day deaths...173"

When the truth is only 20 people died that day......153 deaths were backlogged from over a month before and just reported on that day
I get it just fine. Only someone too ignorant to read and understand how a report is prepared would have a problem with such a report. I suspect the "crazy news media" has a much better understanding than you.
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Old 07-27-2020, 05:11 AM
 
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I suspect some of the reporting lag comes from a deliberately dysfunctional reporting infrastructure much like the FL unemployment system was designed to fail. Perhaps they were wanting to suppress the deaths/cases weeks ago in order to justify reopening and it eventually caught up with them and they had to dump the withheld death numbers rather than keep rolling them over. That's my conspiracy theory for the day. Our Governor's past actions would seem to support this possibility.
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Old 07-27-2020, 06:55 AM
 
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I get it just fine. Only someone too ignorant to read and understand how a report is prepared would have a problem with such a report. I suspect the "crazy news media" has a much better understanding than you.
well if you get it....why are you still going on with it....it's the news media that's reporting it wrong...so obviously, you still don't get it

NPR > July 23, 2020......."Florida Sets Yet Another Coronavirus Record: 173 Deaths In A Day"

No only 20 people died that day...they pooled an entire months of deaths and reported them all on that one day

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronav...eaths-in-a-day

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Old 07-27-2020, 09:36 PM
 
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well if you get it....why are you still going on with it....it's the news media that's reporting it wrong...so obviously, you still don't get it

NPR > July 23, 2020......."Florida Sets Yet Another Coronavirus Record: 173 Deaths In A Day"

No only 20 people died that day...they pooled an entire months of deaths and reported them all on that one day

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronav...eaths-in-a-day
The lie begins in the title of this topic. Florida is not misrepresenting or misreporting inflated COVID-19 numbers. Why are you carrying on as if it was?

Errors made independently of the reported statistics by outside parties are not the responsibility of the state.

Do you have a point at all other than simply to inflate some small errors into a huge conspiracy?
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Old 07-28-2020, 04:55 AM
 
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Has anyone else heard the apocryphal sounding story about a friend of a friend who went to get tested, signed up, waited for hours and finally left frustrated without getting tested only to receive a positive test report a few days later? I have heard this exact story from three different people in the last week, two in Florida and one in Alabama. The stories are too similar for me to accept as truth but who knows?
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Old 07-28-2020, 06:15 AM
 
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The lie begins in the title of this topic. Florida is not misrepresenting or misreporting inflated COVID-19 numbers. Why are you carrying on as if it was?

Errors made independently of the reported statistics by outside parties are not the responsibility of the state.

Do you have a point at all other than simply to inflate some small errors into a huge conspiracy?
the title goes with the first post...and it's accurate
reporting 100% positive tests is grossly inflating CV numbers
reporting 76% positive rates when it's actually 6% is not "inflating some small number"
reporting only positive tests....and not reporting negative tests...is not some small errors
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