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Old 06-24-2022, 10:03 AM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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Purple? It will eventually turn blue.
Actually, Florida voter registrations have been trending Red since 2018, and for the 1st, Florida has more registered Republicans and Democrats. Evidently, its mostly Republicans moving down here from New York, & other Northern states:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/flo...gain-democrats

Florida is Redder now than ever before.
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Old 06-24-2022, 07:37 PM
 
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Actually, Florida voter registrations have been trending Red since 2018, and for the 1st, Florida has more registered Republicans and Democrats. Evidently, its mostly Republicans moving down here from New York, & other Northern states:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/flo...gain-democrats

Florida is Redder now than ever before.

Another factor in FL and other states, especially north FL is voters who were registered as Democrats for years, are registering as Republicans now. Many of these voters were "registered" as democrats but vote Republicans at election time.


I saw this in my home state of Missouri too. More people identify as Democrats despite the state heavily voting Republicans at all levels of government. A big reason for this is the Civil War. Many of these older voters were raised to be Democrats despite having conservative views.


My beef with the northeast Republicans is they're more RINO. That is why the FL Republicans are so anti gun for example, especially from Southeast FL compared to Mississippi for example. The Republicans in the Miami area would nearly pass as a Democrat in Missouri or Arkansas.



2018 anti gun package Rick Scott signed was passed by Republicans. Around the same time that bill was introduced in Missouri and the lawmakers there laughed at the bill.


In Florida we need more Republicans like Anthony Sabatini. In the Missouri house, 70 percent of the Republicans are just like Sabatini.


He's running for congress now. With Sabatini gone in the FL house we might never see constitutional carry and open carry pass. This is simply ridiculous.


Purple GA passed constitutional carry recently.


FL at the state level of politics has a major RINO problem thanks to SE Florida.
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Old 06-26-2022, 02:38 PM
 
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Another factor in FL and other states, especially north FL is voters who were registered as Democrats for years, are registering as Republicans now. Many of these voters were "registered" as democrats but vote Republicans at election time.


I saw this in my home state of Missouri too. More people identify as Democrats despite the state heavily voting Republicans at all levels of government. A big reason for this is the Civil War. Many of these older voters were raised to be Democrats despite having conservative views.


My beef with the northeast Republicans is they're more RINO. That is why the FL Republicans are so anti gun for example, especially from Southeast FL compared to Mississippi for example. The Republicans in the Miami area would nearly pass as a Democrat in Missouri or Arkansas.



2018 anti gun package Rick Scott signed was passed by Republicans. Around the same time that bill was introduced in Missouri and the lawmakers there laughed at the bill.


In Florida we need more Republicans like Anthony Sabatini. In the Missouri house, 70 percent of the Republicans are just like Sabatini.


He's running for congress now. With Sabatini gone in the FL house we might never see constitutional carry and open carry pass. This is simply ridiculous.


Purple GA passed constitutional carry recently.


FL at the state level of politics has a major RINO problem thanks to SE Florida.
It's a different vibe for sure.
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Old 06-27-2022, 01:44 AM
 
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It's a different vibe for sure.

Notice Roe vs Wade ever since the leak about it that many of the FL Republican lawmakers are staying very low. Even DeSantis isn't constantly preaching about it 24/7


Missouri has a trigger law and immediately when it was overturned Mike Parson issued a proclamation and was the first state to do so basically outlawing all abortions in the state now. While states like MO, TX, MS taking swift action.


Not shocking FL being a purple state I'm sure makes them nervous. Even just causing 2 percent of the voter base to change their minds at the polls over Roe vs Wade could cost someone like DeSantis the election.


I wouldn't be shocked not much is done in FL on abortion until after the Nov elections. If DeSantis were to lose they'd call in a special session to pass something before he's out of office.


I love Sabatini but you can't run a guy like him in the middle of West Palm Beach County, Miami or somewhere like Naples full of Country Club Republicans from New England.
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Old 06-27-2022, 05:51 AM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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My entire family left New York (Brooklyn) and never looked back. 2 of us are now in Florida, & have spent more of our lives in Florida than any other state.

I left Florida too...twice actually; after college, then when I was promoted/transferred back North...ugh! So in all, I've moved to Florida 3 times.

A lot of people left New York for New Jersey, and more than 1/2 of New Jersey wants to move to Florida, so what does that say about New York?

I like the Hamptons, & if money were no object, I'd Summer there. The rest of the state of New York holds no appeal for me. I enjoyed visiting Cooperstown as a baseball fan, but I couldn't live there.

NYC was the center of the universe for decades, but I don't see it as such anymore. If they despise Florida, that doesn't bother me because I don't care what they think. I know I see a LOT of New York car tags here, so not all New Yorkers despise Florida.

I do get a good laugh out of the bumper sticker I see that says "Don't New York My Florida!"

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Old 06-28-2022, 07:43 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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Oh my! I can see why New Yorkers are teed off at Florida...look at all the wealthy New Yorkers who left NY in 2020, and how many Billions in taxable income took with them:

https://nypost.com/2022/06/28/wealth...in-income-irs/

If this trend continues, NY will go broke.
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Old 06-29-2022, 07:08 AM
 
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$21 billion....and the highest earners pay a disproportionate amount of taxes....in spite of what they've been saying about the wealthy not paying their share
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Old 06-29-2022, 02:41 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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NY has lost a lot of law enforcement people to early retirement recently. Detectives are leaving early, & its hampering investigations.

https://nypost.com/2022/06/28/frustr...ve-had-enough/

DeSantis offered t pay $5,000 bonuses to out of state (includes NY) law enforcement pro's that wanted to relocate to FLA, so that didn't help FLA win any Brownie points with New Yorkers either.

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...dxu-story.html

I guess we have a rivalry in the making.

The Bucs winning the Super Bowl, the Lightning winning the Stanley Cup 2x and making it to the finals a 3rd time, & the Rays success over the Yankees is pouring salt into the wound. The Yanks and Mets are on top now, so maybe that will take some of the past sting away.

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Old 06-29-2022, 02:59 PM
 
Location: Miami (prev. NY, Atlanta, SF, OC and San Diego)
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as a former NY'er (born and raised through college) who migrated to Florida after 33 years in California, FL does supersede NY in the following:

1. Weather--people do move from NY to FL for the climate; far fewer move from FL to NY for the climate
2. Income tax--nonexistent in FL
3. Homeless situation--not nonexistent but a blip on the radar v. NYC
4. Crime--actually better in FL than NY
5. Real estate--more bang for the buck (sq footage, more amenities--at least on an urban to urban comparison).

There are areas in which NY does supersede FL:

1. more diverse terrain (mountains, etc),
2. arts/entertainment/theatre/culture (NYC),
3. universities (Columbia, Cornell, NYU, and more > U of F, U of Miami, etc);
4. more career and wealth building opportunities in more fields.
5. better mass transit
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Old 06-29-2022, 03:53 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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as a former NY'er (born and raised through college) who migrated to Florida after 33 years in California, FL does supersede NY in the following:

1. Weather--people do move from NY to FL for the climate; far fewer move from FL to NY for the climate
2. Income tax--nonexistent in FL
3. Homeless situation--not nonexistent but a blip on the radar v. NYC
4. Crime--actually better in FL than NY
5. Real estate--more bang for the buck (sq footage, more amenities--at least on an urban to urban comparison).

There are areas in which NY does supersede FL:

1. more diverse terrain (mountains, etc),
2. arts/entertainment/theatre/culture (NYC),
3. universities (Columbia, Cornell, NYU, and more > U of F, U of Miami, etc);
4. more career and wealth building opportunities in more fields.
5. better mass transit
US News & World Report ranks Florida #1 for higher education, and New York 16th:

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-sta...ings/education

When you drill down on their methodology, it has a lot to do w/ affordability of higher education. Look at the costs of NYU, Cornell, & Columbia versus Florida, Florida State, and Central Florida as a comparison.

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