[kidyankee764]

Originally Posted by JPrzybylski07

We cause our own problems and we make things worse with our arrogance. I understand economically you have billions of dollars of real estate tied to the barrier islands I speak of, millions of dollars of tourist money flowing through every year because of the beaches and resorts, etc etc. It’s our own fault we have created this economic engine that must continually grow to be healthy yet at the expense of our environment.

A tornado is bad but it doesn’t cause the same environmental damage as a hurricane like Ian. Our waterways here in SWFL are much more fragile than some cornfield in Iowa.

There are no quick solutions and there are many bigger issues and dilemmas here at play but we need an attitude check to start with. We are not the victims, we are the detriment. Can you at least admit that?

Now you’re moving goal posts. What a hurricane does to a landscape we have no control over. If it causes part of an area to become uninhabitable, then so be it. But otherwise habitable areas should be properly rebuilt; it shouldn’t be avoided (as you earlier suggested) solely because of the possibility of another disaster.

We don’t need an attitude check as much as we need infrastructure improvements (eg, smarter building). And, unfortunately, with every natural disaster that occurs (tornado, fire, earthquake and hurricane), the older, out of current code buildings get weeded out. In the short term, it’s sad. In the long term, it’s better. That’s just how it works.

[Corrie22]

Originally Posted by LeafyDenseCities

See how this Florida town survived Ian unscathed
Bobcock Ranch, Florida....

...probably the best example of "dredge and fill" destroying the ecology you're find anywhere

[JPrzybylski07]

Originally Posted by kidyankee764

Now you’re moving goal posts. What a hurricane does to a landscape we have no control over. If it causes part of an area to become uninhabitable, then so be it. But otherwise habitable areas should be properly rebuilt; it shouldn’t be avoided (as you earlier suggested) solely because of the possibility of another disaster.

We don’t need an attitude check as much as we need infrastructure improvements (eg, smarter building). And, unfortunately, with every natural disaster that occurs (tornado, fire, earthquake and hurricane), the older, out of current code buildings get weeded out. In the short term, it’s sad. In the long term, it’s better. That’s just how it works.

But it’s not working, that’s the thing. Our local environment has been on a steady decline. It’s not working, but I do hope we figure it out. You sound much more optimistic than I do.

[Corrie22]

Originally Posted by kidyankee764

Now you’re moving goal posts. What a hurricane does to a landscape we have no control over. If it causes part of an area to become uninhabitable, then so be it. But otherwise habitable areas should be properly rebuilt; it shouldn’t be avoided (as you earlier suggested) solely because of the possibility of another disaster.

We don’t need an attitude check as much as we need infrastructure improvements (eg, smarter building). And, unfortunately, with every natural disaster that occurs (tornado, fire, earthquake and hurricane), the older, out of current code buildings get weeded out. In the short term, it’s sad. In the long term, it’s better. That’s just how it works.

the way nature works naturally.....

something gets weeded out....and is replaced by something with resistance to it...or better evolved to deal with it

[HeartofFlorida]

Originally Posted by NJ Brazen_3133

What is fair rate though? Insurance is a gamble. For a long while now, in Florida, the odds are not in favor of the insurance company.

If the house is completely destroyed like I have seen in some vids, then repairing is like building a brand new one from scratch. It should be as expensive as buying a house then. Most people are taking out loan, and paying it off slowly. But one needs the house repaired/built again right away and not slowly. Insurance has to pay all that out at once.

Take into account its not just one house in the area, but an entire town or neighborhood. Now of course the payout is coming from a much much larger pool that can be statewide, or even nationwide. But if company knows this disaster is likely to occur biannually or close, then they likely gonna to charge higher premiums or not even offer insurance at all.

Insurance is a racket and companies shouldn't underwrite policies that can't afford to be honored in a worse case scenario. The numbers never make sense. Elementary math.

[1insider]

Florida returning Ian's water and sediment to the Gulf as seen from the ISS. Might be a while before clear water returns.

[Dave_n_Tenn]

A lot if not most.... is because the Gulf is very shallow and the bottom sand is stirred up. Water returning from the Caloosahatchee would be tannin colored (dark)

In fact the area most affected isn't even showing the sediment now since the normal near shore current moves from north to south. Naples and points south, to the Thousand Island area, is very cloudy.