05-21-2006, 03:24 PM
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Hi There!
We also are NJ residents(near Atlantic City)and we are relocating to the Tampa area soon. You will find that people down there are pretty friendly. You'll run into nasty people now and then, but that happens everywhere. The pace of life is slower in Fla.--I love it!!!
We'll be relocating to Wesley Chapel, which is a bit north of Tampa. It's a pretty new area and nice developments are going up there. Three new malls are being built there too. The families are nice, and I find that people are very polite. If you have kids, it a great place to rear them. Kids there seem to be more respectful and tame than kids here up north.
Good luck!!
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05-21-2006, 09:08 PM
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(Disclaimer:I'm not from Florida, but I am a native southerner from a beach state with many relocated northerners)
I think this is a good question, jerseygirlgoinsouth. The truth is, southerners don't hate northerners. You could compare it to how the French view Americans. The French see Americans as rude, loud, and generally disrespectful of their culture and way of life.
Southerners feel a similar way. Most northerners I've met in the south either:
A. Don't know..
B. Don't care..
C. Make fun of..
Our customs and way of life. Typically things like humility, friendliness to strangers, putting others before yourself, respecting women (opening the door for a lady, etc.), and particularly, keeping your mouth shut if you can't think of something nice to say. I find this particularly prevalent with guys from up north.
Remember: "Good manners do not cost you anything to exercise, but the lack of them may cost you dearly"
Now, there are other things going on as well, some of which you may have no control over:
-Y'all are moving down south, causing development of land that is very important to us.
-Politics are a factor - we typically favor small government, y'all typically favor big government.
-The media's portrayal of the south. Southerners are made fun of in the media. Southern characters in movies are usually uneducated or unintelligent. Stories involving the South always involve racism. So northerners come down with the assumption that we're all racist, ignorant xenophobes.
-"Well, let me tell you how we used to do it back in CLEVELAND!" oh god, please don't say this (or any variant of it). I wouldn't go to New York and say, "Well, this is how y'all run your state, we do it like THIS back in the swamp.."
-Try not to make fun of our accents. Contrary to popular belief, southerners are proud of the way we talk.
Now, if you move down south, you'll probably catch some flak from someone for being a yankee. Chances are, someone is just picking on you. I got picked on last time I was in Philly, and the last time I was in New York. I shrugged it off, and we all had a good laugh.
I honestly hope this was informative. I was just reading this thread and I felt like the general question was, "Why are they so hostile?" and the answer was "Well, that's because they're rednecks, but we're displacing them, so it's no problem."
Good luck!
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05-22-2006, 06:51 AM
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Hi anonymous,
I agree with you on most issues and you put it in such a nice way! I recently visited the Savannah area and talk about old southern charm! It was just lovely, truly. We had to wait for a table at a restaurant and the way the hostess said it, "I'll be with y'all in just a minute" I didn't mind waiting. In fact, I would've waited longer with a smile on my face. It was just something in the way she said it, that was just so charming. Same with the waitress, and everyone we met along the way.
I think in the north, people are just so rushed and have to fight, kick and scream to get service that it's a little difficult to diffuse oneself from that way of life when going to other areas, like the south.
As for me, I am looking forward to moving south in the hopes to find the southern charm and embrace it in my life. Why do you think people of the north are moving to your neck of the woods? They are just as done with rude, annoying people and being in a rush all the time. Unfortunately, we will find that some of these people will bring their northern ways with them, but maybe in time they will settle down. I realize that Florida is being built up to accomodate people moving from all over, but again, I can't find fault with folks saying things about where they came from, after all, it is comfort to them to speak about where they came from and who knows, they may have something to share that might be useful or even a better way to do something, is all. It doesn't hurt to listen, anyway.
Being from NJ, I find people equate that with being like the characters on the Soprano's or that Jersey attitude. Women with high hair and clicking their gum and trashy clothes. It's not to say that there aren't parts of NJ that have that, but not EVERYONE is like that, from NJ. So on the flip side, we maybe can agree that people are people no matter where they come from, some are nice and some are not. I have high hopes that my move will improve my lifestyle and I hope to make alot of southern friends
05-22-2006, 08:42 AM
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Welcome to Ft. Myers
Jersey Girl,
I was at an interesting conference a few weeks ago in Ft. Myers (which is where I live). The speaker at the time asked everyone who had lived in FM for more than 10 years to stand up -- about 10% stood up. He then asked everyone who living in Ft. Myers for at least 5 years to stand up -- about 25% stood. Consequently, when he asked everyone to stand who has MOVED here within the last 5 years, the majority stood.
My point is, EVERYONE is from outside the area. I'm sure you will be more than welcome -- especially if you have money to spend!
Welcome to Ft. Myers!
05-23-2006, 06:57 AM
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Thank you, gatorguy1969! I am so looking forward to it and your post only encourages me
I just feel that meeting people from all over, I am bound to come across some interesting folks with much to share from where they came from and from people who are native to Fla and the south. I can't wait!!
05-25-2006, 05:42 PM
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Thanks!
Thanks everyone for the responses...It is really helpful to get different perspectives. I have lived in a bunch of states and even in Florida once for a few months as a child (Ft. Myers). Unfortunately, I do not have much of a choice as the the area in Fla we move, it must be commuting distance to Tampa for my husbands job. If I had my choice I would go to St. Augustine in a heartbeat, it is one of my all time favorite places in the world. But at least we will be able to go there on the weekends. The media portrayal of northerners and southerners and midwesterners and new englanders, texans etc...is all so stereotypical. I have no beef with anyone, I have young children and just want to meet people and have fun and embrace a new, slower, hopefully less hectic way of life. I think I'll manage in the Tampa area because coming from the most densely populated state in the country, I am all too familiar with traffic and crowds!! At least I won't have to deal with traffic and crowds AND snow!!!
05-28-2006, 12:07 AM
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Jerseygirl, I've been following this thread because I liked the name of your post. I've been to Fla, but don't live there. Just by your attitude and your friendliness, I will venture to guess that you'll fit in any place you want to live. So relax and enjoy your new home.
05-28-2006, 04:45 AM
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All I know is... I was born and raised in Florida and my view on "Northerners" is interest! I like likable people! With all due respect, I can't figure out how anyone can speak for ALL southerners. Just so "Northerners" understand- Floridians are not all the same- people from the south, people from Florida,or people from ANYWHERE. As we all know, Florida has become a melting pot in itself. I know. I know. Every state has their stereotypical resident... It's just am not one of them and by belonging to this forum I am sure that I have seen many who break all the "rules". All people from anywhere are not the same. Gosh! I'm not trying to be overbearing, I just despise being lumped together with a group that doesn't reflect all of my views. Bottom line is, I love Florida, but most of all I LOVE our country!!! It belongs to all of us, in it's entirety! Anyway, good luck in your move. There are many great places and people to experience in our AWESOME United States!
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05-28-2006, 08:43 AM
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Thank you, I appreciate that because I feel the same way. I am excited to try something new, I 've been in Jersey for the past 25 years but I've also lived in PA, CA, and NY and a lot of my family is in FL so I'm excited for a chance to live near them. I look at this as an opportunity to meet new people and embrace a new place and I've heard more from nice people than not so I think things are going to be great, I'm looking forward to it!
05-28-2006, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by pioneer8
All I know is... I was born and raised in Florida and my view on "Northerners" is interest! I like likable people! With all due respect, I can't figure out how anyone can speak for ALL southerners. Just so "Northerners" understand- Floridians are not all the same- people from the south, people from Florida,or people from ANYWHERE. As we all know, Florida has become a melting pot in itself. I know. I know. Every state has their stereotypical resident... It's just am not one of them and by belonging to this forum I am sure that I have seen many who break all the "rules". All people from anywhere are not the same. Gosh! I'm not trying to be overbearing, I just despise being lumped together with a group that doesn't reflect all of my views. Bottom line is, I love Florida, but most of all I LOVE our country!!! It belongs to all of us, in it's entirety! Anyway, good luck in your move. There are many great places and people to experience in our AWESOME United States!
Thank you Pioneer8, I agree with you 100%. I don't like lumping people together either. Everyone is an individual, although many share similar mentalities. We can all hate eachother and be rude because of our differences and out of selfishness, or we can learn to get along and respect everyone as a human being. Why not? Life is too short and there is already too much hatred in the world. I found that the best way to deal with angry bitter people is to kill them with kindness, or at least try not to feed their fire.
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Most Common Occupations - Construction and extraction occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Installation, maintenance, and repair occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production, transportation, and material moving occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Transportation occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Material moving occupations (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)