[DailyJournalist]

Originally Posted by Wilshire81182

I am not bragging about my own achievements either because I do not make THAT much, just more than minimum wage.

That is very typical of most Orlando workers, whether they are professionals or blue collar. Unfortunatly "just more" than minimum wage does not provide enough to live on in Orlando.

[SheetRock101]

Originally Posted by Retiredcoach

interesting, but cities in the states you mention in Ga, Tenn., are not ranked high in this poll either.... Are you agreeing that there is, in fact, bias with this survey? You've listed Florida, Arizona, and California as 3 of your fastest growing states. You have also listed 3 of the 4 states leading the pack in foreclosures (You forgot Nevada). I wonder if this information was included in the survey poll??

Most likely because Atlanta would be the only city big enough to qualify in the category that Miami and Orlando fall in. Places like Asheville NC, Alpharetta GA, Raleigh NC, and the list goes on and on wouldnt be choices in this poll because they are nowhere near the size of Seattle, San Diego, and Orlando. But I know from personal experience that there are a lof of Floridians moving out and into states like GA, TN, and NC and they are happier (go ask around on those states' forums) and in general, offers a better quality of life, which is important to many people. Not just warm weather so you dont have to shovel snow again.

[Huckleberry3911948]

Originally Posted by TriMT7

Lol, SERIOUSLY? Southern California casting stones? HAHAHAHA.

Firestorms, atrocious traffic, earthquakes, illegal population explosion, Hollywood trash, race riots and latino vs. black gang lore, bankruptcy verge every couple of years, rolling blackouts, water shortages, and cold water beaches. Yay!!!

hey you left one out,
we dont have alligators but we got cell phone tail gators
one tore up the back end of my civic 3 months ago.

[jojajn]

Originally Posted by TriMT7

Way to hijack a thread all the way from the Midwest with irrelevant and off-topic Money Magazine opinions. Yay!!

This link is relevant and on topic. My point is that although a survey says 34% of respondents want to move to Tampa or Orlando, the responses are based on "dreams" rather than on actual facts of the area.

In actuality, those cities are not rated in even the top 100 best places to live in the US.

Best places to live 2008 - Top 100: 1-25 - from MONEY Magazine

It is also relevant to me in the Midwest because I am a possible respondant who might want to move somewhere.

[Gatornation]

Keep those 34% of people away from me!

[TANaples]

Ask them if they would rather have warm weather year round, $50,000 a year, and poor schools, or have cold weather, $100,000 a year, and good schools.

See what they then say.

[Artsywoman]

FLorida is rated number 37 on sterlings review. Pretty bad.!

[Wilshire81182]

Originally Posted by DailyJournalist

That is very typical of most Orlando workers, whether they are professionals or blue collar. Unfortunatly "just more" than minimum wage does not provide enough to live on in Orlando.

I did not mean "just more" as in just barely more. I meant more than minimum wage but I do not make a lot of money. I am also still a student and make a decent wage for being a student and not having any degree yet. I anticipate finishing in two years and making a lot more. All I am saying is that I know several people that live pretty decently here. Even looking at the stats on this site. I compared Orlando to Portland and the the average 2007 wage was 43k here and 47k in Portland. The percentage of population in Orlando below the poverty rate was 15.0% and it is 15.1% there. That was enough to show me that poverty and unemployment is a problem everywhere. You can keep harping on Orlando, but I am not buying it. The poverty rates for other cities in the South: Miami 25%, Atlanta 21%, Tampa 17%.

[TriMT7]

Originally Posted by jojajn

This link is relevant and on topic. My point is that although a survey says 34% of respondents want to move to Tampa or Orlando, the responses are based on "dreams" rather than on actual facts of the area.

In actuality, those cities are not rated in even the top 100 best places to live in the US.

Best places to live 2008 - Top 100: 1-25 - from MONEY Magazine

It is also relevant to me in the Midwest because I am a possible respondant who might want to move somewhere.

Most of the places on the Money Magazine survey are smaller towns. The survey at issue was larger metro areas. Not every person answering the survey needs family amenities and suburban Stepford living that the "best places to live" looks at.

Do you know Gainesville, FL was ranked #1 place in the country to live a year or so ago by some magazine ranking or another?

And for the record, in 2008, Money Magazine had three Florida towns in the Top 100, and SIX in a place like Michigan, which has been bleeding population since even before the economic downturn. You would have to pay me an immense amount of money to live in Michigan.

[Wilshire81182]

Originally Posted by TriMT7

Do you know Gainesville, FL was ranked #1 place in the country to live a year or so ago by some magazine ranking or another?

I have that big green book where they talk about that, I will have to recall the group that put out those results. Gainesville was number one in the country. They scored almost 400 metro areas in the US. Now the sizes they used for metros went all the way from NYC to some towns in GA and the midwest that I have never heard of like Kokanee, IL.