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View Poll Results: Should the law be changed to mandate helmets?
Yes 40 54.79%
No 29 39.73%
Don't care 4 5.48%
Voters: 73. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-21-2007, 03:53 PM
 
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19 voters so far. But no straight answer on: Should the state have a referendum on this matter?
By sunrico90


I would say no referendum on it. Kind of like where it’s against the law to murder, rape, jaywalk, steal, kidnap, change lanes without using your indicator, embezzle, drive in the left lane unless passing, trespass, etc. No referendums on those laws. Hmmmm….
BUT, I love the idea of referendums!!! Maybe things would change in Tallahassee if we had them. I would be more interested in National referendums on some of the troubles we have now. Iraq, immigration, taxes, property rights, global warming, free speech, Britney Spears, oops, cancel that one.
But we have a republic, not a democracy, so we have to select those who represent us with care and hold them accountable to actually working for us. I am not pleased right now on how that is working, but I suppose my Grandpa was not, either. It seems to work out if we let it. I just get upset on all of those that are reinterpreting the concepts we live under and try to not slight anyone. Except the rest of the people.
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Old 03-21-2007, 05:15 PM
 
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I don't think anyone should be forced to wear helmets if they don't want to. I also don't think that hospitals should be forced to service people who have been injured in motorcycle crashes, unless they have insurance or pay cash in advance. If you ride a motorcycle, drive a car or operate any dangerous machinery, you should be made to make provisons in case of accidents or simply be left to suffer the consequences.

I also don't think anyone should be forced to wear seatbelts, or even be forced to make their kids wear seatbelts. I'm so sick and tired of the Government making decisions for me and my family based on safety. This is something that really just started sometime in the 1980's, mostly at the urging of insurance companies seeking to make larger profits. I guess many people have become conditioned to like the idea of Big Brother and nanny-state government.
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Old 03-21-2007, 06:40 PM
 
Location: Lots of sun and palm trees with occasional hurricane :)
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I don't think anyone should be forced to wear helmets if they don't want to. I also don't think that hospitals should be forced to service people who have been injured in motorcycle crashes, unless they have insurance or pay cash in advance. If you ride a motorcycle, drive a car or operate any dangerous machinery, you should be made to make provisons in case of accidents or simply be left to suffer the consequences.

I also don't think anyone should be forced to wear seatbelts, or even be forced to make their kids wear seatbelts. I'm so sick and tired of the Government making decisions for me and my family based on safety. This is something that really just started sometime in the 1980's, mostly at the urging of insurance companies seeking to make larger profits. I guess many people have become conditioned to like the idea of Big Brother and nanny-state government.
I seriously doubt you would be able to get insurance information or cash in advance from someone who may have just had a serious, almost fatal accident or that is in critical condition. So what do you, leave them on the road to die????
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Old 03-21-2007, 06:48 PM
 
Location: Living in Paradise
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I don't think anyone should be forced to wear helmets if they don't want to. I also don't think that hospitals should be forced to service people who have been injured in motorcycle crashes, unless they have insurance or pay cash in advance. If you ride a motorcycle, drive a car or operate any dangerous machinery, you should be made to make provisons in case of accidents or simply be left to suffer the consequences.

I also don't think anyone should be forced to wear seatbelts, or even be forced to make their kids wear seatbelts. I'm so sick and tired of the Government making decisions for me and my family based on safety. This is something that really just started sometime in the 1980's, mostly at the urging of insurance companies seeking to make larger profits. I guess many people have become conditioned to like the idea of Big Brother and nanny-state government.
IS there a way to decide who gets treatment based on your views ?
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Old 03-21-2007, 07:32 PM
 
Location: Miami
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If they do mandate helmets, then seat belts should also be as well as carrying workers in the back of pick-up and the open utility trailers.....
Seat belts are mandated to be worn for all front seat passengers for the entire state of Florida.

I agree people should wear their seat belts, and wear a helmet while on a motorcycle, but you know if they are stupid enough to not wear either, let them, hopefully they will never have an accident and wish they would of worn the helmet or the seat belt.
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Old 03-21-2007, 10:19 PM
 
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Getting a little one sided here, "Helmets kill" too..

Have you ever seen someone who was wearing a LEGAL DOT full helmet only to have the helmet be twisted upwards (in a crash) & the chin strap snap my friend's brain stem
I have..
But you never hear about those incidents, do you ?????

Life can be dangerous getting out of bed.....
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Old 03-22-2007, 08:36 AM
 
Location: Just a few miles outside of St. Louis
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Having a referendum will at least give the people a say-so, however, so many folks think that the government should take care of them, that I'm afraid they would vote to make it mandatory to wear helmets. Don't misunderstand me, I think folks should wear them, but I also think that it is not the place of the government to pass such a law. We have more than enough "Nanny State" nonsense, as it is. I don't have a motorcycle, (and, frankly, I wouldn't drive one on Hwy. 98, for all the tea in China, but that's just me ), but, folks, enough is enough. When are we going to stand up on our two hind legs, and tell the government, (be it local, state, or federal), to take a long flying leap off of a very short pier? I wear a seat belt when I drive, but that should be my choice. I don't need someone else telling me how to take care of myself! And, for any of those who would argue that we, as taxpayers may have to take care of any said bikers, who crack their head open, that just proves what I said before, that we want someone else to take care of us. That is socialist medicine, folks. Whatever happened to personal responsibliity?
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Old 03-22-2007, 03:54 PM
 
Location: Living in Paradise
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Study on motorcycle helmets: Has positives and negatives

This article evaluates the effectiveness of motorcycle helmets in accident situations. A latent variable model is developed and estimated. It is concluded that (1) motorcycle helmets have no statistically significant effect on the probability of fatality; (2) helmets reduce the severity of head injuries; and (3) past a critical impact speed [13 MPH], helmets increase the severity of neck injuries. Further analysis establishes the qualitative and quantitative nature of the head-neck injury trade-off.

The major determinants of fatality are the rider's crash speed (kinetic energy) and blood alcohol level.

http://www.bikersrights.com/statisti...goldstein.html
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Old 03-22-2007, 05:30 PM
 
Location: Lots of sun and palm trees with occasional hurricane :)
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Study on motorcycle helmets: Has positives and negatives

This article evaluates the effectiveness of motorcycle helmets in accident situations. A latent variable model is developed and estimated. It is concluded that (1) motorcycle helmets have no statistically significant effect on the probability of fatality; (2) helmets reduce the severity of head injuries; and (3) past a critical impact speed [13 MPH], helmets increase the severity of neck injuries. Further analysis establishes the qualitative and quantitative nature of the head-neck injury trade-off.

The major determinants of fatality are the rider's crash speed (kinetic energy) and blood alcohol level.

http://www.bikersrights.com/statisti...goldstein.html
Interesting. So bikers have to stay under 13mph with or without helmets!
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Old 03-22-2007, 06:36 PM
 
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I ride. I wear a helmet 90% of the time. That is my choice. This has been a fight down here since I came down in 81'. A.B.A.T.E. was the organized group working for helmet law repeal in those days. I believe back then it stood for American Bikers Against Totalitarian Enactments. (Means something else now) Really want to save lives? Outlaw cell phone use by the driver of any moving vehicle. Please, don't talk to me about "Hands Off." At least now when I see the cell to the ear as I ride near, I know the driver is distracted and can't possibly be in full control. I get my helmeted head as far away as I can. Leave the helmet law stand. Lets really accomplish something and kill the phones. Beep-Beep the lights green! Hang up and drive.
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