[backtofla]

where do you live in orlando moonbeam? i see some of what you say, but not THAT much. no "white trash" where i am, but traffic and some of the other things you mentioned --- pretty evident.

however, when talking about education, i hope you are not talking about SC as having the great education you are longing for. perhaps you are talking about so cal?

[kmtjss]

Theres no town perfect out there. Orlando is the vacation area of the world. If you were to raise a family today that would be the last place to raise them. Theres good places out there in Fl you just need to do your research. Remember, it cost money to live in a nice area and thats the truth. There are some cheaper places to live but the work doesn't pay well. I lived in Texas a couple summers ago and I thought it was the perfect place to raise a family but the pay scale was 40% lower than where I'm from in Upstate NY. In NY there are great schools and the pay scale is good but the winters are brutal and the taxes are strangling the middle class. I found Florida's pay scale to be the same as upstate if you look deep enough. The home prices are up but the utilities are lower. Taxes are higher in NY and you receive no communitie service except plowing and leave pick up. If your kids hate the cold and rain than you will find the winters very long stuck in the house. Generaly 6 months long. I've been on the Gulf coast 2 years and I love it. People are diffrent but being from NY I can pick up the "salesman" out there trying to run the scam. The house we own is about the same as it would be in NY but it sure nice seeing the sun more than 10 times a year.

[dreamofmonterey]

Orlando is the vacation area of the world
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Uhm, no. The world is a big place.

North Florida is still nice; Navarre, Amelia Island, St Augustine. And yes, some people who escaped S Florida forgot about those places. Vacation spot of the world?- leave the US and visit Monte Carlo, Acapulco or Honolulu. Orlando is sadly lacking.


sunny

[HockeyMom72]

Originally Posted by Tfoshizzel

I think pearto ricans are ruining Orlando FL. with there lazyness and gangbangin ways. Some parts of Florida are probably good but Orlando is definitly a Latino area full of crime such as murders and robberies

I grew up in Manhattan in the 1950's and 1960's. Puerto Ricans have been coming to this country for generations now. As a 10 year old back in 1958, my best friends were from Puerto Rico. My older daughter's best friend growing up on LI in the 1980's was from Puerto Rico and BiLingual.

Yes, they do keep their culture after they move here, but my family (Italian) has keep their culture in this country since the 1890's. I am the first generation who is not BiLingual, although I do still try to keep the customs of my ancestors's native country. I truly regret that my Mom did not speak Italian very much to me.

As a young person growing up back then, I took Spanish in HS so I could undertand what the Puerto Ricans all around me were saying. I used to try to read the signs on the subways in Spanish. What is wrong with learning a second language, particularily a language that is dominate among the immingrants in the area in which you live?

Besides which, just remember one thing. No Puerto Rican will ever be an illegal alien. Some people may not like that, but it is a FACT.

[leavinFL]

virginia,
i'm leaving bec i hate the weather and want a place with LOTS to do w/ kids

[backtofla]

orlando brings in more tourists than hawaii or monte carlo --- unfortunately.

[applejuice]

Moved to Georgia...and I have not missed Florida for a minute. It has been two years.

[MrsMtnsOnTheMind]

We are leaving Florida because of the following:

Cost of living
Hurricanes
Mean people
Insurance rates
High utilities
Low paying jobs
High housing market
The heat
Alligators (ate two small dogs in neighborhood)
Don't know neighbors....been here 13 years
Flat land
No seasons
Pine pollen
Roaches (live in pine trees)
High utilities
No organic foods
No Messianic congregations
Love bugs, biting flies, mosquitos
Cats have long hair/too hot for them
Sand, even in the country
Grass won't grow
Rude teenagers
No southern hospitality
Crime
Concrete
Condos
Hate the beach
School system stinks
The humidity
No place to hike
State parks are too regulated
House is too small
Shark attacks at beach
Too many seafood restaurants (Keep Kosher)
Strangers don't speak or even smile
Have to run air 360 days of the year
No good bagel shops
No cultural events
Don't want to work just to pay utilities and taxes

When both husband and wife work and all you can afford is a 1100 square foot house.....something is wrong with this picture. Add in all the rest and it is time to move on.

[MrsMtnsOnTheMind]

Originally Posted by backtofla

i agree - ppl leave south fla and move to ga/nc/tn w/o checking out northern fla. all 3 regions of fla are different, however, when looking into central fla, i wouldnt advise orlando after living here the time i have. my 2 cents.

I disagree. I am about as north in Florida as you can get and it's looking a lot like south Florida every day. The people in the south are moving up here and ruining the place. The Canadians also flock here in the winter and they are very rude to everyone. They are impatient, honk at the slightest traffic delay, complain about the prices, and set a foul mood for the area. Just when it starts to cool down a bit and you can get out in the community (after being holed up inside for 8 months because of the heat) then along come the snow birds.

[jqzimm]

I am from Florida native, born and raised the South East Florida. I love Florida, I always have. My husband is from Indiana and we lived there for several years. I hated it no sun for months. All I wanted was to move back to Florida, and we did 9 years ago, to the west coast Sarasota area, because at that time it was affordable and my husband was offered a good job. Every thing has change in the last 5 years. You can not afford to live here even with both us workin50 hours a week and making $90,000 a year. Our wages have not gone up in 5 years, but the cost of every thing housing, transportation, insurance, health care, utilities and more has gone through the roof. The crime rate is way too high for the size of the area, the people are so rude, and employers care nothing about there employees, it has gotten very depressing we live 20 minutes from the beach, but never get to go because all we do is work and now we are having Gang problems at the BEACH!

We are thinking of moving to East Texas, I have heard that they have mild weather and the people are supposed to be nicer there and a better job market and more affordable living. I really don't want to leave Florida, but living here has become do difficult I don't know if we can stay!

There is one thing I must say about Florida. people come here from every where and have trashed the place for everyone. They can drive, try to escape their other life in another state, bring there bad attitudes, bad driving, drug problems, gang influence and child sexual predators here. It is very rarely that the people who do these thing are actually from Florida.

Then you have the people that come here from places like Ny or Michigan and complain about every thing in Florida but the weather. The great weather has always been here, and Florida would still be a great place if people would treat it with respect, but it's too late now. These are just a few reason that someone who love their state as much as I do feel the need to leave it.