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Old 04-10-2010, 01:25 PM
 
Location: Tampa Bay Area Florida
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Its all too bad...however we love florida and plan on staying here..My dad was a former NYC teacher.and sub's in a high school in NJ .and well I cant tell u there will be changes there to the school system as well..its sad as I hate to say eventually alot of states will be changing education as we know it...and at the end of the day, my children will be attending college and getting on with their lives..I will not be sending my kids to private school either...I feel for the teachers as I have friends who are teachers here in Broward and well they arent moving out of florida either...

I hope this bill doesnt pass although I dont see how he wont sign it...good luck to all the teachers out there..this gives more people another chance to bash florida...and Im a very active parent in my children's education always have...

 
Old 04-10-2010, 01:26 PM
 
Location: Covington County, Alabama
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"I saw on the news a week or two ago, and it said that FL is last in retaining students. I just caught the end of the story, so I'm not sure what exactly they meant, but I assume they are talking about the students moving in and out of the state all the time. I have never seen so many people come and go like they do here in FL."


FL is an agricultural state. Migrant workers come and go with crops. That is not a good reflection on schools or teachers. It is a statistic that is abused. What are FL teachers suppose to do kidnap students and keep them enrolled when parent yank them out to work at the age of 16 because they can?
 
Old 04-10-2010, 01:28 PM
 
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I would never presume to judge how hard another person's job is. So, instead of AWI I will just leave this eloquent piece from the recent Teacher of the Year: (Miamiteacher I am still undecided if I am going to go or not...I am leaning towards staying home.)_________________________

I rise before dawn each day and find myself nestled in my classroom hours before the morning commute is in full swing in downtown Orlando. I scour the web along with countless other resources to create meaningful learning experiences for my 24 students each day. I reflect on the successes of lessons taught and re-work ideas until I feel confident that they will meet the needs of my diverse learners. I have finished my third cup of coffee in my classroom before the business world has stirred. My contracted hours begin at 7:30 and end at 3:00. As the sun sets around me and people are beginning to enjoy their dinner, I lock my classroom door, having worked 4 hours unpaid.

I am a teacher in Florida.

I greet the smiling faces of my students and am reminded anew of their challenges, struggles, successes, failures, quirks, and needs. I review their 504s, their IEPs, their PMPs, their histories trying to reach them from every angle possible. They come in hungry—I feed them. They come in angry—I counsel them. They come in defeated—I encourage them. And this is all before the bell rings.

I am a teacher in Florida.

I am told that every student in my realm must score on or above grade level on the FCAT each year. Never mind their learning discrepancies, their unstable home lives, their prior learning experiences. In the spring, they are all assessed with one measure and if they don’t fit, I have failed. Students walk through my doors reading at a second grade level and by year’s end can independently read and comprehend early 4th grade texts, but this is no matter. One of my students has already missed 30 days of school this year, but this is overlooked. If they don’t show this on ONE the test in early March, their learning gains are irrelevant. They didn’t learn enough. They didn’t grow enough. I failed them. In the three months that remain in the school year after this test, I am expected to begin teaching 5th grade curriculum to my 4th grade students so that they are prepared for next year’s test.

I am a teacher in Florida.

I am expected to create a culture of students who will go on to become the leaders of our world. When they exit my classroom, they should be fully equipped to compete academically on a global scale. They must be exposed to different worldviews and diverse perspectives, and yet, most of my students have never left Sanford, Florida. Field trips are now frivolous. I must provide new learning opportunities for them without leaving the four walls of our classroom. So I plan. I generate new ways to expose them to life beyond their neighborhoods through online exploration and digital field trips. I stay up past The Tonight Show to put together a unit that will allow them to experience St. Augustine without getting on a bus. I spend weekends taking pictures and creating a virtual world for them to experience, since the State has determined it is no longer worthwhile for them to explore reality. Yes. My students must be prepared to work within diverse communities, and yet they are not afforded the right to ever experience life beyond their own town.

I am a teacher in Florida.

I accepted a lower salary with the promise of a small increase for every year taught. I watched my friends with less education than me sign on for six figure jobs while I embraced my $28k starting salary. I was assured as I signed my contract that although it was meager to start, my salary would consistently grow each year. That promise has been broken. I’m still working with a meager salary, and the steps that were contracted to me when I accepted a lower salary are now deemed “unnecessary.”

I am a teacher in Florida.

I spent $2500 in my first year alone to outfit an empty room so that it would promote creative thinking and a desire to learn and explore. I now average between $1000-2000 that I pay personally to supplement the learning experiences that take place in my classroom. I print at home on my personal printer and have burned through 12 ink cartridges this school year alone. I purchase the school supplies my students do not have. I buy authentic literature so my students can be exposed to authors and worlds beyond their textbooks. I am required to teach Social Studies and Writing without any curriculum/materials provided, so I purchase them myself. I am required to conduct Science lab without Science materials, so I buy those, too. The budgeting process has determined that copies of classroom materials are too costly, so I resort to paying for my copies at Staples, refusing to compromise my students’ education because high-ranking officials are making inappropriate cuts. It is February, and my entire class is out of glue sticks. Since I have already spent the $74 allotted to me for warehouse supplies, if I don’t buy more, we will not have glue for the remainder of the year. The projects I dream up are limited by the incomprehensible lack of financial support. I am expected to inspire my students to become lifelong learners, and yet we don’t have the resources needed to nurture their natural sense of wonder if I don’t purchase them myself. My meager earning is now pathetic after the expenses that come with teaching effectively.

I am a teacher in Florida.

The government has scolded me for failing to prepare my students to compete in this technologically driven world. Students in Japan are much more equipped to think progressively with regards to technology. Each day, I turn on the two computers afforded me and pray for a miracle. I apply for grants to gain new access to technology and compete with thousands of other teachers who are hoping for the same opportunity. I battle for the right to use the computer lab and feel fortunate if my students get to see it once a week. Why don’t they know how to use technology? The system’s budget refuses to include adequate technology in classrooms; instead, we are continually told that dry erase boards and overhead projectors are more than enough.

I am a teacher in Florida.

I am expected to differentiate my instruction to meet the needs of my 24 learners. Their IQs span 65 points, and I must account for every shade of gray. I must challenge those above grade level, and I must remediate those below. I am but one person within the classroom, but I must meet the needs of every learner. I generate alternate assessments to accommodate for these differences. My higher math students receive challenge work, and my lower math students receive one-on-one instruction. I create most of these resources myself, after-hours and on weekends. I print these resources so that every child in my room has access to the same knowledge, delivered at their specific level. Yesterday, the school printer that I share with another teacher ran out of ink. Now I must either purchase a new ink cartridge for $120, or I cannot print anything from my computer for the remainder of the year. What choice am I left with?

I am a teacher in Florida.

I went to school at one of the best universities in the country and completed undergraduate and graduate programs in Education. I am a master of my craft. I know what effective teaching entails, and I know how to manage the curriculum and needs of the diverse learners in my full inclusion classroom. I graduated at the top of my class and entered my first year of teaching confident and equipped to teach effectively. Sadly, I am now being micro-managed, with my instruction dictated to me. I am expected to mold “out-of-the-box” thinkers while I am forced to stay within the lines of the instructional plans mandated by policy-makers. I am told what I am to teach and when, regardless of the makeup of my students, by decision-makers far away from my classroom or even my school. The message comes in loud and clear that a group of people in business suits can more effectively determine how to provide exemplary instruction than I can. My expertise is waved away, disregarded, and overlooked. I am treated like a day-laborer, required to follow the steps mapped out for me, rather than blaze a trail that I deem more appropriate and effective for my students—students these decision-makers have never met.

I am a teacher in Florida.

I am overworked, underpaid, and unappreciated by most. I spend my weekends, my vacations, and my summers preparing for school, and I constantly work to improve my teaching to meet the needs of my students. I am being required to do more and more, and I’m being compensated less and less.

I am a teacher in Florida, not for the pay or the hardships, the disregard or the disrespect; I am a teacher in Florida because I am given the chance to change lives for the good, to educate and elevate the minds and hearts of my students, and to show them that success comes in all shapes and sizes, both in the classroom and in the community.

I am a teacher in Florida today, but as I watch many of my incredible, devoted coworkers being forced out of the profession as a matter of survival, I wonder: How long will I be able to remain a teacher in Florida?

Jamee Cagle Miller
2009 Seminole County Teacher of the Year
Two thumbs up for this great post
 
Old 04-10-2010, 01:28 PM
 
Location: Tampa Bay Area Florida
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Will Charter Schools be affected by this as well? or just public schools?
 
Old 04-10-2010, 01:38 PM
 
Location: FLORIDA
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"I saw on the news a week or two ago, and it said that FL is last in retaining students. I just caught the end of the story, so I'm not sure what exactly they meant, but I assume they are talking about the students moving in and out of the state all the time. I have never seen so many people come and go like they do here in FL."


FL is an agricultural state. Migrant workers come and go with crops. That is not a good reflection on schools or teachers. It is a statistic that is abused. What are FL teachers suppose to do kidnap students and keep them enrolled when parent yank them out to work at the age of 16 because they can?

It's not the teachers fault if parents want to come and go, and I wasn't referring to migrant workers. This may be the case in Belle Glade, or somewhere similar, but I'm just talking about FL in general, not specific locations.
 
Old 04-10-2010, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Covington County, Alabama
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It's not the teachers fault if parents want to come and go, and I wasn't referring to migrant workers. This may be the case in Belle Glade, or somewhere similar, but I'm just talking about FL in general, not specific locations.
It's not just Belle Glade. It goes right up the middle of the state. I'm far north of Belle Glade in the citrus belt.
 
Old 04-10-2010, 01:59 PM
 
Location: FLORIDA
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It's not just Belle Glade. It goes right up the middle of the state. I'm far north of Belle Glade in the citrus belt.

OK. But I wasnt really talking about the migrant workers specifically. Parents move in and out of FL with their kids all the time, and these folks have all different types of professions. The migrant workers and their kids have a pretty small impact on the entire state's transient population.
 
Old 04-10-2010, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Covington County, Alabama
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OK. But I wasnt really talking about the migrant workers specifically. Parents move in and out of FL with their kids all the time, and these folks have all different types of professions. The migrant workers and their kids have a pretty small impact on the entire state's transient population.
I'd have to see a scientific statistical study to really know. Either way you can't blame the teacher.
 
Old 04-10-2010, 04:04 PM
 
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Teachers are not producing widgets. They are working with people. In this case, children. I'm not asking for more money necessarily, but for a little more respect and the chance to help my students the best I can. Despite my efforts, there are sometimes students who will not perform well on a test. I am mostly concerned not for my salary, but for the future of our students. We already push so hard teaching to the test (FCAT) - it is so frustrating, but so much emphasis is on student performance on a single test! Our school money depends on it. We are producing a bunch of test takers - not thinkers. If you put through a bill that puts such emphasis on one or two tests, what do you think will happen? Teachers and administrators will find it difficult to resist the urge to teach even more to the test. What I could really use is not penalties, but help. (I spend so much of my own money on students. I have no volunteers coming to my room. My class size gets larger every year. I never thought these things mattered, until I became a teacher 5 years ago. I left a secure desk job to try to contribute to society.) I wish we had new and interesting books, computers, software, supplies, working copy machines, etc. We live in a time where school teachers rely on websites like Donorschoose.org to get supplies! I have had homeless students, abused students, abandoned students, and more in my class. I'm not making excuses. I set high expectations in my classroom. They are there every day. I am there everyday. I will be there on Monday too. Because they need me. I won't talk of sick-outs or money... I'll just try to "hold down the fort" at my school and keep them safe.
 
Old 04-10-2010, 04:50 PM
 
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What do you think about the walk outs and sick out taking place and being planned?
Screw them, let them quit if they don't like it. What job do you get a guarantee you can't be fired no matter how much you stink at the job. I think, and this is just my own opinion, half the teachers in class rooms today do a bad job. Most just go through the motions and they have been spoiled with the current system. Time to weed out the dead wood and there is a lot.
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