[floridamove2]

Yeah, But the boomers will be here. all the boomers will move to florida and save the day ! Green card or not !

[Hondax]

Originally Posted by floridamove2

Yeah, But the boomers will be here. all the boomers will move to Florida and save the day ! Green card or not !

I happen to agree, but many here don't give much weight to the power of the retiree even though they are like "lemmings" in numbers.

The oldest Baby Boomers turn 62 next year and will be eligible for Social Security(whoopee). Florida wants them bad, but the state has decided to micro manage Property tax collection causing a very expensive and inequitable system that will help keep many away from the Sunshine State unless the State acts quickly.

[JimKing]

There will not be an influx of retirees coming to Florida. In survey after survey by the AARP, many will continue working at least part time into their 70s. The Carolinas, TX, GA, AL all were attractive retirement areas for them. Many want to be active and near their families. Others like the allure of safe college towns across the US. Almost all want areas with the lowest possible property taxes.

Read todays housing bubble blog about all the condo projects still being built despite a 3 year supply already. Any retirees that come will choose these, not 3-4-5 bedroom single family houses.

My parents are very active in several large retiree groups. Not one person they have met has ever mentioned retiring to Florida. Retiring to Florida has taken on a joking cliche status to today's retirees...it is so 1980-1990.

[macguy]

Originally Posted by JimKing

There will not be an influx of retirees coming to Florida. In survey after survey by the AARP, many will continue working at least part time into their 70s. The Carolinas, TX, GA, AL all were attractive retirement areas for them. Many want to be active and near their families. Others like the allure of safe college towns across the US. Almost all want areas with the lowest possible property taxes.

Read todays housing bubble blog about all the condo projects still being built despite a 3 year supply already. Any retirees that come will choose these, not 3-4-5 bedroom single family houses.

My parents are very active in several large retiree groups. Not one person they have met has ever mentioned retiring to Florida. Retiring to Florida has taken on a joking cliche status to today's retirees...it is so 1980-1990.

Florida is evolving and many cities still don't know what they want to be when they grow up. One minute it's one thing something, something else the next. There has never seemed to be a long term idea where Florida was going. I don't see retirees as what it wants anymore. It wants to grow as a state with more then just old people. They need some industry here and a way for young families to prosper. I don't know how it will be done but this place has too much going for it to be business as usual anymore. Everything here has taken place in like the last 50 or 60 years and that is very young for a state. It's not crashing and burning, it is just getting started but needs some real ideas and change for it's future.

[Hondax]

Originally Posted by JimKing

There will not be an influx of retirees coming to Florida. In survey after survey by the AARP, many will continue working at least part time into their 70s. The Carolinas, TX, GA, AL all were attractive retirement areas for them. Many want to be active and near their families. Others like the allure of safe college towns across the US. Almost all want areas with the lowest possible property taxes.

Read todays housing bubble blog about all the condo projects still being built despite a 3 year supply already. Any retirees that come will choose these, not 3-4-5 bedroom single family houses.

My parents are very active in several large retiree groups. Not one person they have met has ever mentioned retiring to Florida. Retiring to Florida has taken on a joking cliche status to today's retirees...it is so 1980-1990.

I'm old school Jim as I still remember the Jacky Gleason Show recorded in Miami and his opening comment; "How sweet it is" as he donned a killer tan and puffed his cigarette. They may not be coming now but it's a suckers bet to count Florida out of the retirement scene for too long. Especially if housing prices continue to fall.

[Audacious]

I gotta agree with Hondax and macguy. Housing has dropped 30% and everyone says it is the begining of the end of the world. I read all that but I also look around at what is happening all across the state.

I 75 is being widened all the way down to Charlotte harbor. Many North South Blvds' in North Port are also being widened. In South Venice the amount of development STILL going on is amzing. Here in Sarasota we have a fellow who is building a one BILLION dollar development. Work has already started.

As Greenspan once said this is a crumudgeon. Some people say its crashing and others are putting BIG $ saying otherwise. I don't know who is right or wrong but my instinct tells me that this bubble correction or whatever is over by the last quarter of this year. Then the roller coaster starts up the next hill. The research on demographics, migration, employment etc that these big corps' do is telling them the same thing and they are putting up their $ now. No one wants to be old & cold. I hope this blog/thread continues for another 3 years, by then todays housing prices will seem cheap and we can all look back to doom and gloom with a smile.


Annnnnd away we go!

[Hondax]

Originally Posted by Audacious

Annnnnd away we go!

I forgot about that one,....lol. What a great memory,....thanks Audy!

[cariad]

Originally Posted by Audacious

I hope this blog/thread continues for another 3 years, by then todays housing prices will seem cheap and we can all look back to doom and gloom with a smile.


Annnnnd away we go!

And how in the world do you expect middle class America(which is well on it's way to becoming the new poor) to afford higher prices when the problem today is that they can't afford the current prices?

In my opinon this is thinking typical of those speculator and house flipping "get rich quick" investors.

[macguy]

Originally Posted by cariad

And how in the world do you expect middle class America(which is well on it's way to becoming the new poor) to afford higher prices when the problem today is that they can't afford the current prices?

In my opinon this is thinking typical of those speculator and house flipping "get rich quick" investors.

Industry. Florida has always resisted it but the reality is we need some big companies to come here. I remember when we were supposed to become the movie capitol but that never panned out. Turn some of that central Florida farm land into industry and let the cities grow around it. We are not talking about all this taking place in 12 months but there has to be some kind of plan for the state. Right now most of it other then the coast line is just a waste.
And by the way, what is wrong with speculators? It is not illegal or immoral to make money. The only people who knock that are the ones who don't have any or don't have the balls to make any.

[Audacious]

Originally Posted by cariad

And how in the world do you expect middle class America(which is well on it's way to becoming the new poor) to afford higher prices when the problem today is that they can't afford the current prices?

In my opinon this is thinking typical of those speculator and house flipping "get rich quick" investors.

Right now and probably for the next 6 months or so there are PLENTY of affordable houses out there. Look around, they are all over the place.