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Old 11-23-2013, 02:13 PM
 
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I always considered red-meat to be beef and beef only.. (hence the term "red" (after it blooms)
I would consider lamb to be red meat also.

Pork, the "other white meat" is a marketing thing.

When I first read the thread title, I thought it meant is the COMBINATION of chicken and bacon considered red meat.

Isn't bacon a vegetable?
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Old 11-23-2013, 02:16 PM
 
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Not trying to be spelling police, but this is the food forum and knowledge of food should be shared.

It's "wurst", a German word for sausage. liverwurst, bratwurst, etc.

Yes, I too think liver is the WORST. ; )
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Old 11-23-2013, 02:30 PM
 
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I would consider lamb to be red meat also.
I too think that mutton/lamb as well as beef to be red meat. So bacon definitely falls in that category. On the other hand chicken is not red meat (and as someone mentioned fish is not meat at all).
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Old 11-23-2013, 02:47 PM
 
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I would consider lamb to be red meat also.

Pork, the "other white meat" is a marketing thing.

When I first read the thread title, I thought it meant is the COMBINATION of chicken and bacon considered red meat.

Isn't bacon a vegetable?

this is an opinion/perspective based question and answer

in my world, red meat means specifically beef, and beef only

the other white meat pork campaign was promoting pork to be leaner,,,

by NO MEANS is bacon, sausage any other meats,,,is or are RED-MEAT

Lamb, pig, rabbits, deer, moose, chickens, are not BEEF or RED MEAT



IMO

some may interchange red meat with any meat,,,,and again in my world it isnt the same
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Old 11-23-2013, 03:11 PM
 
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Wow. People still regurgitating the saturated fats and red meat = bad. Whole grains and low fat = good? That's so 70s-80s. Don't let that Food Pyramid fall on you!

British doctors admit saturated fats are vital for good health, help naturally lower cholesterol without drugs

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Dr. Malhotra, an interventional cardiology specialist registrar at Croydon University Hospital in London, has conducted extensive research on the subject of fat intake and discovered that we have all basically been lied to. The oft recommended low-fat diet is actually a primary driver of both obesity and heart disease, he says, noting that the elimination of saturated and other healthy fats from the diets of millions of people worldwide has left them with more cardiovascular abnormalities, the opposite of what governments have long claimed.

In a recent study published in the British Medical Journal (BMJ), Dr. Malhotra clarifies the difference between artificial trans fats, which have repeatedly been shown to trigger the inflammatory processes in the body that lead to heart disease, and saturated fats, which occur naturally in foods like butter, coconut oil and palm oil. He dubs governmental preoccupation with the unsubstantiated dangers of saturated fats an "obsession," noting that the real issue involves carbohydrates and sugars, which have been shown to trigger an uptick in harmful, low-density lipoprotein (LDL) cholesterol.

Learn more: British doctors admit saturated fats are vital for good health, help naturally lower cholesterol without drugs
How did our primal ancestors ever survive without whole grain cereal, soy milk, salad bars, and low fat yogurt?

I'd say that mainstream dietary guidelines are typically decades behind the cutting edge of nutritional science. My Harvard-trained MD snickered at me back in the late 70s for taking vitamins C and E. My elderly aunts made their pie crusts with lard back when all the "smart" wives were using Crisco. I knew that something was wrong, back in the day, when I was a vegetarian gorging on whole wheat pasta all the time and had no energy.

Just my $0.02. Get a second or third opinion. Don't die from a misprint, as Twain said. Personally, I have embraced the paleo diet, it makes sense, and I have never felt better.
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Old 11-23-2013, 03:51 PM
 
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How did our primal ancestors ever survive without whole grain cereal, soy milk, salad bars, and low fat yogurt?
Well for one thing they lived much shorter lives
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Old 11-23-2013, 03:52 PM
 
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Yes, I too think liver is the WORST. ; )
get some chicken livers
fry 'em up with onions and stuff in chicken fat
then grind it with some hard boiled eggs
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Old 11-23-2013, 03:57 PM
 
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Wow. People still regurgitating the saturated fats and red meat = bad. Whole grains and low fat = good? That's so 70s-80s. Don't let that Food Pyramid fall on you!

British doctors admit saturated fats are vital for good health, help naturally lower cholesterol without drugs



How did our primal ancestors ever survive without whole grain cereal, soy milk, salad bars, and low fat yogurt?

I'd say that mainstream dietary guidelines are typically decades behind the cutting edge of nutritional science. My Harvard-trained MD snickered at me back in the late 70s for taking vitamins C and E. My elderly aunts made their pie crusts with lard back when all the "smart" wives were using Crisco. I knew that something was wrong, back in the day, when I was a vegetarian gorging on whole wheat pasta all the time and had no energy.

Just my $0.02. Get a second or third opinion. Don't die from a misprint, as Twain said. Personally, I have embraced the paleo diet, it makes sense, and I have never felt better.
Finally, someone else who gets it. Show me the liverwurst! ANd boo to vegan, BTDT, hair grayed/fell out, more dental work than I ever had in my life. Went back to meat, hair and gums grew back.

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get some chicken livers
fry 'em up with onions and stuff in chicken fat
then grind it with some hard boiled eggs
O my, talk more food porn to me, MrR........yummmmmmmmly!
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Old 11-23-2013, 05:05 PM
 
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Well for one thing they lived much shorter lives
Fred Flintstone, don't let a dinosaur sit on you!

And we live longer, sicker lives addicted to our bypass surgeries, hip replacements, statins and SSRI's. Yeah, great trade-off. Once my Hoveround recharges I'm going out for a rack of ribs.
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Old 11-23-2013, 05:49 PM
 
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O my, talk more food porn to me, MrR........yummmmmmmmly!
Not me or mine... but it's a good start:

Primal Blueprint Recipe: Chopped Liver with Schmaltz and Gribenes - YouTube
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