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Well, one of the concerns at the back of my mind is how would that affect the supply for those of us who depend on such?
For example, it is probably pretty well known now that I use powdered milk as my main milk supply. I grew up on the stuff and find it cheaper to use.
I have heard suggestions over the years that those on food stamps should only be able to get beans, flour, rice, powdered milk, and the like (all staples in my life). Well, if those started going to a dedicated population, where does that leave those of us not part of that population?
It's all well and good when those, generally speaking and not present company, who don't consume such say how it should be used but it is quite a different thing when it has the possibility of taking away one's meal.
I'm glad you responded to this comment.. I've heard it before
foodstamps are a big part of many stores business.....these stores or supermarkets...cater to people that buy on price (me)
90% of the customer base in maine are price driven...
so the stores compete on low/lower prices to get more customers
and this benefits the frugal shoppers and the ones with foodstamps (ebt)
whole foods does NOT do this ..... you can buy soooooo much more at a regular supermarket with loss leaders than you can at whole foods
this is why the sales percent of food stamps at whole foods (is close to zero at least in maine)
and they seem to be fine with that..
whole foods gets a halo affect and regular supermarkets take the brunt of many fronts....but at least they are trying to have the lowest prices for the poorer folks in the community ...whole foods does not do this!
regular supermarkets feed the whole community not just the elite
whole foods is like a car dealership that only sells cadillacs.......
not everyone can afford a Cadillac.. no matter how great ...of cars cadillacs are
I'm glad you responded to this comment.. I've heard it before
foodstamps are a big part of many stores business.....these stores or supermarkets...cater to people that buy on price (me)
90% of the customer base in maine are price driven...
so the stores compete on low/lower prices to get more customers
and this benefits the frugal shoppers and the ones with foodstamps (ebt)
whole foods does NOT do this ..... you can buy soooooo much more at a regular supermarket with loss leaders than you can at whole foods
this is why the sales percent of food stamps at whole foods (is close to zero at least in maine)
and they seem to be fine with that..
whole foods gets a halo affect and regular supermarkets take the brunt of many fronts....but at least they are trying to have the lowest prices for the poorer folks in the community ...whole foods does not do this!
regular supermarkets feed the whole community not just the elite
whole foods is like a car dealership that only sells cadillacs.......
not everyone can afford a Cadillac.. no matter how great ...of cars cadillacs are
Well, I wonder if the original poster about "whole foods" was referring to the chain or the concept. I took it as referring to the concept for the chain is far, far too expensive, IMHO, for most people to shop at regularly.
lots of propaganda and b.s. on the internet about food...... different factions of the food industry have different agendas....the farmers shame the grocery store foods..... the organic folks shame the all natural and anything but organic... the vegans shame anything meat ...even milk,,,the PETA wackos do the same
but sometimes the reverse happens...
because we've heard the hysteria over most foods....then "everything will kill us" we may as well eat what we like" attitude
at a work meeting a week ago a asked some food questions... to clear up some food myths
I asked is our chicken and pork we sell filled with growth hormones??? 80% of the women raised their hands and said yes
and I asked why do they believe that??? "they heard it on the internet or from friends or on tv"
and 3 lady's said they stopped buying chicken because of this ...
I told them its against the law to use growth hormones on chickens and pigs in the u.s so their are NO hormones !!
which told me I need to put that on the labels and put up signs!!!
hysteria is a good word!
Yes, you do indeed sound hysterical. In fact, RACTOPAMINE was approved by the US Food and Drug Administration for use as a growth promoter on cattle a decade ago and is still banned by the European Union and most Asian countries.
The brand name of ractopamine hydrochloride is Paylean, and it is used in the USA. Read about it at the National Institute of Health, the highly respected repository of research.
Residues of Ractopamine and Identification of its Glucuronide Metabolites in Plasma, Urine, and Tissues of Cattle.
I have the answer to our healthcare crisis in this country. Instead of rewarding the corporations that produce food using unhealthy practices to raise yields and profits with subsidies how about rewarding those that produce organics and other grocery items that are not full of pesticides, salt, sugar and saturated fats? Then people of every socioeconomic background will be able to eat relatively healthy and healthcare wouldn't have to be this giant boondoggle it has become.
The greatest burden on this countries finances, outside of defense, is the healthcare system. It's basically organized crime, like drug dealers. We'll get them hooked on crap and they'll have to come back for more. So the people who can least afford healthy food eat what they can afford and become burdens on the healthcare system which pumps up the profits of big pharmaceuticals and the US Healthcare system that has now become the biggest employers in the nation. Healthcare is the new auto industry. That is scary. Let's make people sick for profit. And to those who say having bad health is a choice I say keep your head in the sand. These profiteers take advantage of human nature and not everyone has the resources to stay out of the trap. And if you follow the money you could consider, no let's call it what it is, the money that goes to pay for all of the sick people in the healthcare system that cannot afford insurance comes from the middle class. That is a tax in my book. The government is not doing its job! See the definition of government below:
"According to the Constitution of the United States, the federal government was established for six specific purposes. These purposes include unity, justice, domestic tranquility, defense, promotion of the general welfare of the citizens and securing liberty for all."
I believe general welfare would include keeping people healthy, no?
It's really simple to fix but we are being fooled by the crooks behind the curtain. Just force big corporations to make healthy food the rule rather than the exception and healthcare will take care of itself!
Next problem - retraining all those healthcare workers that will no longer be necessary!
might sound like a good idea on the surface but there are holes in it. Number 1-organic will always be more expensive due to the cost of producing it; 2-I do not want anyone deciding for me what is healthy eating ad what is not; just another case of nanny state and 3-what is healthy today might be declared unhealthy next month and visa versa.
Which makes me wonder about the rise in cancers... synthetic vs natural...
The main reason, in my opinion for the rise in Cancer: living longer and better diagnosing. I remember, clear back in the 50s a college professor I had telling us, there was a time when people died of pneumonia when they probably died of advanced lung cancer, just never was it diagnosed. Again, too many believe too much of what they read.
The main reason, in my opinion for the rise in Cancer: living longer and better diagnosing. I remember, clear back in the 50s a college professor I had telling us, there was a time when people died of pneumonia when they probably died of advanced lung cancer, just never was it diagnosed. Again, too many believe too much of what they read.
Hi ssh1313,
The only thing I am scared of is the proposed reductions in food safety. The slacker FDA with their hands off supplement policy is nothing new. The useless labels such as organic are nothing new. Fact is uneducated, sick people mean big money for certain companies. There are industries that thrive on selling pipe dreams of health (pills, potions, surgeries, makeup) and confidence. Healthy, confident people probably don't buy pipe dreams so there is benefit to some parties in keeping people uneducated, misled and insecure in their ability to be happy with their health and appearance.
I try to educate myself, then pass it on to others. People can do what they choose but they should have access to truthful data first. I am concerned that because of increased political changes truthful data will be increasingly hard to find. I don't always like what I hear but at least when I hear or read it I can choose.
I don't buy the hype. I read. I take classes and try to hear what I need to hear, not just want I want to hear. I consider the source. I don't / won't give up just because there are a bunch of tricksters trying to sell me things. I realize the former ADA (now Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics) has soda companies and others as sponsors. Those are the same folks that are churning out these registered dietitians. That is another discussion.
As Judge Judy said if it doesn't make sense- it's not true. Probably. I figure people are either part of the solution or part of the problem. I'm working on educating myself, then educating others. Hopefully if people are made aware they will take steps so we all are safer. And at this point- I'm working on growing my own fruits and veg via hydroponic or aeroponic systems to start. I don't cut back on social gatherings with food. I just don't always eat the food.
NG
If someone said Whole Foods when they meant whole foods, then I am totally lost.
I find the meat issue the most confusing. Where I don't care so much about organic, I care about quality. Grain fed, low hormone, low antibiotic.... that's what I want. We don't eat much, I want it to be GOOD. And then you get into prime and choice. We only want prime and only ONE place sells that (costco), Safeway sells grass fed and local and grass fed?!! One ranch on the island and it is mega expensive.
It's really hard. With veggies I don't really buy organic because I don't see any benefit versus regular, and certainly can't justify the cost. Local I like because studies have shown those foods to be higher in nutrients.
This is our food supply, our life. It should not be confusing at all.
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If you mean eating healthy, theres always going to be fad diets that say we should try them. But, I do not believe in fad diets or fad foods to try. I would rather at least try to eat more healthy like eating organic food, having more water and juice, trying to cut down on soda (or having none at all), certain foods I eat in moderation and its the food that we should eat in moderation, etc. Something along those lines. Just use common sense, or at least try to use common sense.
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