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There's a little politics in here, but mostly about the ubiquitous pumpkin spice.
It didn't seem to me that most thing I tried - like pumpkin ice cream - were anything more than maybe some cinnamon and cloves. And it turns out that I was right.
Will Pumpkin Spice Destroy Us All?
By Frank Bruni
It’s invention run amok, marketing gone mad, the odoriferous emblem of commercialism without compunction or bounds. It’s the transformation of an illusion – there isn’t any spice called pumpkin, nor any pumpkin this spicy – into a reality.
Sorry. The article took way too long to get to the point. Worthless post. How about, like, giving us a summary or sharing your opinion? I've spent two minutes on this post and have no idea what you're on about.
I've never expected pumpkin to appear in pumpkin spice coffee, creamer, or whatever.
If the OP, or the author of the article, had told us what's in the article, I'd feel more comfortable responding, but if something is described as "pumpkin spice", it needs to have pumpkin it. Otherwise, lawsuits!
Its pumpkin pie spice. So yes, while those spices are used to flavor other dishes, its also used for making pumpkin pie. There is no pumpkin in these products, because it's not supposed to be pumpkin flavored (which yes, pumpkin does have a flavor), its the spices used when baking pumpkin pie.
It's not even fake pumpkin that's the issue, it's the complete ABSENCE of pumpkin.
Some of the "pumpkin spice flavored" offerings are literally nothing but cinnamon, nutmeg, cloves, and sugar. Why this is deemed "pumpkin spice" and not, you know, "cinnamon, nutmeg, cloves, and sugar," appears to be the bone of contention.
Why this is deemed "pumpkin spice" and not, you know, "cinnamon, nutmeg, cloves, and sugar," appears to be the bone of contention.
Because cinnamon, nutmeg, cloves, and sugar are the spices you use to make pumpkin pie. Hence the name, pumpkin spice.
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Originally Posted by hbdwihdh378y9
This thread has absolutely ZERO to do with "pumpkin spice". It's not about a jar with a label that says "Pumpkin Spice". You're arguing in bad faith and insulting our intelligence.
This thread is about things billed as containing pumpkin and spices.
Except the items being discussed are not labeled as "pumpkin and spice", they're labeled "pumpkin spice". Adding that "and" completely changes the label from being a product flavored with the same spices as pumpkin pie, to being actual pumpkin flavored.
Yes, some pumpkin spice items might contain actual pumpkin, especially bakery items, but they're not all going to contain pumpkin. Which is perfectly fine since the flavoring is about the spices, not the pumpkin.
Regardless of what Pumpkin Spice comprises or is properly called, Frank Bruni did report accurately that it's Starbucks we have to thank (or blame) for Pumpkin Spice Season, since 2003 (below, an ad from 2013).
I don't consider it a threat to the free world or anything, but I have to admit, I do find the ubiquity of pumpkin spice everything a little annoying. Then again, I don't like pumpkin pie, and never have. It is one of the very few foods I refuse to eat. The only time I have really enjoyed pumpkin was at a Thai place where I ate it cooked in lightly sweetened coconut milk. That was delicious.
I think pumpkin is disgusting and that it should not be considered a food source. God gave us pumpkins so we could make jack-o-lanterns and so stone age people could dry them out and use them to store things in. That is all.
I'm at the point where I actually hate pumpkins. Like all of them. Decor, seeing them on everyone's steps, pumpkin patches, pumpkin spice lattes, the whole thing.
And I'm so tired of hearing how much people like FALL as soon as September comes. "Fall, my favorite season! "Fall, time to break out the sweaters!" "Fall, time to go to the pumpkin patch!"
Whatever, it's like 80 degrees still in most parts of the country until at least November. We get it. You like fall, you like pumpkins. Please be quiet now.
Funnily enough I love pumpkin pie, but I suspect I would like anything whipped and baked with cream and sugar and pie crust.
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