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Old 01-27-2019, 11:04 PM
 
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I was thinking can spinach, pineapples or onions be “inorganic”? Real food is real food for fruits and veggies right?

Now on meat I’m on the fence due to environmental reasons and because of the whole slaughterhouse thing I’m only beginning to read more on. Also I understand regular meat is full of cancer causing omega 6s but I don’t know if that’s propaganda. My problem with food is there’s something to back up ever position which makes this hard.

Last but easiest is boxed foods. Here I find it easier to separate organic from standard, over processed foods.
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Old 01-28-2019, 03:11 AM
 
Location: Texas
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https://www.realclearscience.com/art...es_110755.html

Suggested reading..
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Old 01-28-2019, 03:46 AM
 
Location: Texas
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https://pesticides.news/2017-12-05-c...l-impacts.html

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"Copper: Copper hydroxide, copper oxide, copper oxychloride, includes products exempted from EPA tolerance, provided that copper-based materials must be used in a manner that minimizes accumulation in the soil and shall not be used as herbicides"

"List of known side effects
Copper oxychloride is bad for the mucous membranes. Large doses of copper oxychloride may retard the growth of plants. It is also extremely toxic to bees, birds, fish, and invertebrates.

Body systems affected by copper oxychloride
Copper oxychloride is bad for the ocular system. It can corrosion of the cornea.

Copper oxychloride is bad for the circulatory system. It can cause the rupturing of blood cells, thereby resulting in circulatory collapse and shock.

Copper oxychloride is bad for the excretory system. A reduction in liver weight has been detected in people who have been exposed to the compound, which is usually indicative of organ failure.

Copper oxychloride is bad for the male reproductive system. It can cause damage to the male reproductive organ, specifically testicular atrophy."
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List of major substances

Bacillus subtilis

Bacilus thuringiensis

Beauveria bassiana

Boric acid: Structural pest control, no direct contact with organic food or crops.

Coniothyrium minitans

Copper: Copper hydroxide, copper oxide, copper oxychloride, includes products exempted from EPA tolerance, provided that copper-based materials must be used in a manner that minimizes accumulation in the soil and shall not be used as herbicides of major substances
https://www.agdaily.com/technology/t...ic-production/

For the complete list
https://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-id...se7.3.205_1601
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Old 01-28-2019, 06:55 AM
 
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I refuse to pay inflated prices for organics and remember
They can still use a smaller amount of pesticides

If. Conventional beef is harmful - I should have been dead
10 years ago

I eat 3-4 steaks a week for over 30 yrs
I’m 54 and healthy as a horse ( my dr stated keep doing what I’m doing-
He’s nearly grass fed and said he’d like to have my
Bloodwork results
I haven’t called in sick for 8 years and rarely get a cold

The real food demons are sugars n carbs
Not meat not healthy fats



Buy more local than organic support your
Local farmers


Organics represent only 5% of total food sales
They’ve been push organic s for 30 yrs

And ironically the big agriculture companies
The organic folks use to protest are now the
Biggest producers of organics on a mass scale

I sell organics - and yes it’s usually good product s
But I’ve also refused many organic food programs after seeing
The production lines - what many think it is and reality
Can be two different worlds

I’d also like to sell more organics because I can get much higher margins
The organic customer isn’t a price driven consumer

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Old 01-28-2019, 07:01 AM
 
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Here is another good article from a reputable scientific source:

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com...l-agriculture/
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Old 01-28-2019, 07:11 AM
 
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Why organics may not be healthier

From NPR

https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt...lthier-for-you
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Old 01-28-2019, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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For which foods does organic/non-organic matter?


None. The only difference it makes is to the bottom line profits of those businesses that produce, sell and promote the stuff.
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Old 01-28-2019, 01:00 PM
 
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None. The only difference it makes is to the bottom line profits of those businesses that produce, sell and promote the stuff.
^^^^^THIS^^^^ Times 10!!!

Currently have an adult son on this Organic train to insanity! To the point that the soy milk must be organic and gosh forbid I drink milk or have cheese of any type!

I knew the day he brought home "Organic" water that was 4 dollars for 16 oz that he was deluded and conned by this market ploy.

Organic clothing now is his new mission..egads....Its truly taken on a bizzare turn ....
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Old 01-28-2019, 01:01 PM
 
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There's a new list of the "dirty dozen" and "clean fifteen" every year:

https://www.ewg.org/foodnews/dirty-dozen.php
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Old 01-28-2019, 01:38 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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I believe food that you can eat the skin should be organic, I don’t spray mine at home so that’s what I go by, like berries, apples, pears, spinach, etc..
Thick skin food like bananas, pineapples, etc.. don’t have to be organic because you are going to peel and cut the skin anyway.
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