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Old 09-10-2022, 06:49 AM
 
Location: Northern California
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I just take out enough to last a few days.
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Old 09-10-2022, 09:34 AM
 
Location: South Bay Native
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Temperatures in LA have been three digits for the past week. It dropped to a chilly 84 degrees last night when we had a spot of rain.

I cannot imagine keeping the butter out on the counter. I just take the butter out of the fridge a few minutes before I'm going to use it, then return it to the dairy compartment in the fridge as soon as I'm done. I've never even heard of a butter bell, know no one who owns one, and based on what I've read in this thread, it sounds like a lot of unnecessary fuss.

That photo someone shared of their oval butter holder is cute, but it wouldn't work with the European butters we buy since those are shaped differently (like Kerrygold, Plugra, Lurpak, Président, Finlandia, Allgau). Do they make one shaped like those packages?
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Old 09-10-2022, 09:59 AM
 
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What about unsalted?
Unsalted butter will become rancid faster. Salt acts as a preservative.

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Temperatures in LA have been three digits for the past week. It dropped to a chilly 84 degrees last night when we had a spot of rain.

I cannot imagine keeping the butter out on the counter.
I live in Orange County, and have always kept the butter out. Maybe your house is different, but around here if it gets to be over 80 degrees inside, we turn on the a/c. That's maybe a week or 10 days out of the year, most years.
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Old 09-10-2022, 09:59 AM
 
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I use a water surround butter boat - the bell gets too messy - kind of same idea to keep it soft but keep from melting. https://www.city-data.com/forum/64106189-post10.html (photo at link)
https://www.butterbell.com/pdp/hand-...er-bell-crocks

I must have both of these! So elegant and pretty.
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Old 09-10-2022, 10:29 AM
 
Location: South Bay Native
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Unsalted butter will become rancid faster. Salt acts as a preservative.



I live in Orange County, and have always kept the butter out. Maybe your house is different, but around here if it gets to be over 80 degrees inside, we turn on the a/c. That's maybe a week or 10 days out of the year, most years.
It is different - there is no AC. We live close to the beach and up until just a few years ago, we never missed having it.

The only perishable food we keep on the counter are tomatoes and bananas. Stone fruits when they are in season.
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Old 09-10-2022, 11:59 AM
 
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It is different - there is no AC. We live close to the beach and up until just a few years ago, we never missed having it.
To be fair, our house HAD an a/c unit, but it was nonfunctional for the first twenty years we lived here. I could put up with a few days of heat myself, but about five years ago I could no longer put up with the vociferous complaining of teenage children, so we had our unit repaired.
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Old 09-10-2022, 06:43 PM
 
Location: Tricity, PL
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Never had it spoil - salted butter should last at least 7-10 days as long as not melted and keep lid on when not in use. I wash the dish out a couple of times a month.
Oh, yes. Salted.
That might be different. I use unsalted.
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Old 09-10-2022, 09:12 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas & San Diego
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What about unsalted?
Salt helps preserve and lowers the moisture content - According to the FDA and NIH, while most types of bacteria would be able to survive on unsalted butter, there is only one type of bacteria that can survive the conditions of salted butter. According to their tests - Regular, salted butter has a low risk of bacterial contamination, even when kept at room temperature for several weeks (they tested 3 weeks). In fact, salted butter is actually produced with the expectation that consumers will not keep it in the fridge (in FDA report above).

According to NIH stud - fats go rancid, or spoil, through a process called oxidation, which alters their molecular structure and results in off flavors in any foods made with the rancid fats. Heat, light and exposure to oxygen can all speed up this process. It has been demonstrated that it may take anywhere between several weeks to over a year for oxidation to negatively affect butter, depending on how it is stored.

So according to reports from the gov't, salted butter is fine to leave out for several weeks but unsalted should not be regularly left out for more than is necessary.

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Old 09-11-2022, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Hmm. This whole salted/unsalted thing has put a different spin on keeping the butter on the counter. I ONLY use unsalted butter.

Maybe limit it to half a stick. Or re-consider the decision I made based on this thread that a butter bell was more hassle than it was worth. . .
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Old 09-11-2022, 10:12 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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https://www.butterbell.com/pdp/hand-...er-bell-crocks

I must have both of these! So elegant and pretty.
After shipping costs, they are cheaper on Amazon.
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