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I got to go to Okinawa once to teach a class on a base. The best thing was the base phone book had a short list of etiquette tips ...
What I remember that I still use: don't ever point or wave your chopsticks around, it's very rude. Don't blow your nose at the table or in the restaurant (I always go to the bathroom to do this now, in all restaurants). Cover your mouth when you chew or chew with your mouth closed.
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They really had to TELL people those things?!?! Surely they learned the same thing in the USA.
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Originally Posted by saobi
1) Most Chinese dishes are bite sized, does not require public dismembering a part of an animal at the dinner table. So chopsticks are perfect for picking up each portion.
2) Most Chinese are served on a bowl or at least a concave plate.
I have not experienced a case where knife/fork is more convenient than chopsticks. Noodles? How do you eat noodles with a fork? By wrapping it around like a 5 year old? Come on, the best way to eat noodles is to pick them up with a chopstick and slurp them loudly, especially when multiple people are eating and slurping at the same time. It's great, stimulates your appetite.
I remember going somewhere to someone's house and we had spaghetti...and there I am <SLORP><SLORP> enjoying my noodles with mucho gusto and I realized people are looking at me....
Woops. Forgot...have to eat quietly.
Thanks for making remember that.
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Originally Posted by Jenie0109
OK after reading all the arguments let me give conclusions:
1. Using chopsticks is effective if you are Asian (mostly) or a non-Asian who knows how to use it.
2. One could say using a chopstick is ineffective and inefficient if and only if they don't know how to use them properly.
3. Using chopsticks is like the concept of beauty. It is cultural and varies in every region. It is normal here in Japan to eat your spaghetti with chopsticks, if you do that in America, people will freak out. Using a fork in eating sushi in America is very acceptable because it is a known fact that not all are familiar in using chopsticks. If you do that here in Japan, people will stare at you.
Feel free to agree with me.
I've never seen anyone eat sushi with a fork.
Edit. Then again, I've never seen anyone eat chili with chopsticks.
Reasons to use chopsticks:
1. The food is prepared in a way that is meant to be eaten with chopsticks not forks and knives.
Since it is easier to eat such food with a fork, I disagree. And frankly I really doubt most restaurants care how you eat it ie they don't "mean" for people to eat it any particular way.
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2. It slows you down so you won't be a big fat American and can get more enjoyment out of the food and in the end, eat less.
Gee glad you didn't throw out some silly stereotype.
Being fat has nothing to do with how fast you eat, FYI. Likewise, enjoying food is subjective and so has nothing inherently to do with using or not using chopsticks. It also has nothing to do w/how much you eat.
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3. It's the right thing to do. Would you eat fried chicken and ribs with a knife and fork? Ice cream with a knife?
Ignoring the "right thing to do" as that is also extremely subjective....no I wouldn't, because it's logistically illogical. Not so by using a fork for chinese (or whatever).
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4. Don't make the rest of us look like cultural idiots. What would you think of a Japanese person who used chopsticks to eat spaghetti?
I couldn't care less, but it's an invalid analogy anyway. A fork and knife are not inherently "italian utensils." Chopsticks, on the other hand, are uniquely tied to a certain type of food. And forks/knives/spoons are universal.
I would add #5:
5. So people can look cool and "culturally enlightened" (or so they think)
I couldn't care less, but it's an invalid analogy anyway. A fork and knife are not inherently "italian utensils." Chopsticks, on the other hand, are uniquely tied to a certain type of food. And forks/knives/spoons are universal.
Really? Which food would that be? Because I have seen them used in many, many countries. Please let us all know what that one certain type of food is that chospticks apply to.
I would add #5:
5. So people can look cool and "culturally enlightened" (or so they think)
Wow, no disdain or resentment in that comment, huh? I wonder if the billion+ people who regularly eat with chopsticks really think they are looking "cool and culturally enlightened" as they dine.
Really? Which food would that be? Because I have seen them used in many, many countries. Please let us all know what that one certain type of food is that chospticks apply to.
Oriental food (which covers more than one country). I didn't say you couldn't use them for other foods, but they are clearly identified (and originated from) that area of the world.
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Wow, no disdain or resentment in that comment, huh?
Yeah a little, I admit. I abhor pretentiousness.
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I wonder if the billion+ people who regularly eat with chopsticks really think they are looking "cool and culturally enlightened" as they dine.
Most, of course not - but some, no doubt (mostly in this country).
I don't like pretentiousness, either, but *most* people who use chopsticks to eat Japanese or other foods are not patting themselves on the back for being enlightened.
I fumble my way through sushi with chopsticks.
I'm just not all that good with them, yet can't imagine using a fork: using chopsticks is more fun.
My husband is very good with chopsticks and ignores my clumsiness.
Would I waggle my finger disdainfully at anyone using a fork to eat sushi? No.
I have plenty of food snobs in my own life and don't care to add to the madness.
I don't like pretentiousness, either, but *most* people who use chopsticks to eat Japanese or other foods are not patting themselves on the back for being enlightened.
Lol, well the only reason I'd use the chop sticks over a fork and knife is that it's a challenge. You know, just to see if I can do it.
What's wrong with that?
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