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Old 09-03-2009, 09:36 PM
 
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I haven't seen the car in person yet, but I've been reading up on it and thought it might be a possibility when we replace one of our cars next year. Then I saw the weight in the specs. A shade over 4,000 pounds!

That seems awfully heavy to me. My current car, '03 Nissan Maxima has a curb weight of 3220 and my last "working" car was an 2000 Crown Vic which weighed about 3950.

What the heck did Ford do to bulk up the Taurus. It's not "body on frame", it doesn't have the heavy V-8 that my Crown Vic had. I thought car mfgrs were on a "weight loss" program as a way to improve mileage but this seems really odd to me.

Anyone got any input. I know there are at least one other Taurus thread going but I thought this specific item needed covering.

golfgod
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Old 09-03-2009, 10:14 PM
 
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If you haven't seen the new Taurus in person, it has evolved into a full-size car unlike the '06 & earlier ones. This evolution started with the 2005 Five Hundred in order to replace the aging Crown Vic. Your Maxima is more of a midsize. I drive a Lincoln LS and parked it near a Taurus at the dealership, and it dwarfs my car even though the LS has a long wheelbase. The height of the rear trunk is probably a good 4-6 inches taller than my trunk.

The new Taurus actually has more interior space than the Crown Vic, but it's not as long since it is packaged more efficiently. Plus, all the sound insulation and safety equipment have added pounds, but have also made it one of the quietest and safest cars on the road.

If you're looking for something similar size to your Maxima, you should probably be looking at a Fusion or something along those lines.


Look how small Mark Fields is compared to the Taurus
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Old 09-03-2009, 10:36 PM
 
Location: Murfreesboro, TN
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I cannot stand the new Taurus because the back end doesn't match the front end stylewise. It looks like they tacked on the rear end of a Chrysler Sebring.
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Old 09-03-2009, 11:08 PM
 
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The new Taurus has more interior space than your old Crown Vic if that gives you an idea of size, and its something like an 800% stiffer chassis. Add new safety features like side impact beams (heavy steel), stability control, more airbags, laminated glass, and a plusher interior, and you get an idea how much has changed for a new Taurus to weigh only a few hundred pounds more than the Crown Vic.

Full size cars (and mid-size German cars) just weigh two tons anymore - its the new standard, just like 1.5 tons was back in 1990. The cars are larger and contain more stuff, so they weigh more.
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Old 09-03-2009, 11:50 PM
 
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The new Taurus has more interior space than your old Crown Vic if that gives you an idea of size, and its something like an 800% stiffer chassis. Add new safety features like side impact beams (heavy steel), stability control, more airbags, laminated glass, and a plusher interior, and you get an idea how much has changed for a new Taurus to weigh only a few hundred pounds more than the Crown Vic.

Full size cars (and mid-size German cars) just weigh two tons anymore - its the new standard, just like 1.5 tons was back in 1990. The cars are larger and contain more stuff, so they weigh more.
Every car made in the past 20 years or so has had heavy steel side impact beams. They aren't "new" to any current vehicle.
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Old 09-04-2009, 01:22 AM
 
Location: Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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I haven't seen the car in person yet, but I've been reading up on it and thought it might be a possibility when we replace one of our cars next year. Then I saw the weight in the specs. A shade over 4,000 pounds!

That seems awfully heavy to me. My current car, '03 Nissan Maxima has a curb weight of 3220 and my last "working" car was an 2000 Crown Vic which weighed about 3950.

What the heck did Ford do to bulk up the Taurus. It's not "body on frame", it doesn't have the heavy V-8 that my Crown Vic had. I thought car mfgrs were on a "weight loss" program as a way to improve mileage but this seems really odd to me.

Anyone got any input. I know there are at least one other Taurus thread going but I thought this specific item needed covering.

golfgod
I don't think the all aluminum 4.6 liter V-8 is all that heavy in the crown vic. I mean with all the piping and intercoolers the twin turbo 6 should weight the same as a small V-8 in the Taurus SHO.
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Old 09-04-2009, 01:49 AM
 
Location: H-town, TX.
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The 2-valve 4.6L in the Vic is an iron block last I checked. About a 600 LB engine.

Unless something changed, it's the DOHC 4.6L in the Cobra and maybe the Lightning 5.4L that's all-aluminum.
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Old 09-04-2009, 10:49 AM
 
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I haven't seen the car in person yet, but I've been reading up on it and thought it might be a possibility when we replace one of our cars next year. Then I saw the weight in the specs. A shade over 4,000 pounds!

That seems awfully heavy to me. My current car, '03 Nissan Maxima has a curb weight of 3220 and my last "working" car was an 2000 Crown Vic which weighed about 3950.

What the heck did Ford do to bulk up the Taurus. It's not "body on frame", it doesn't have the heavy V-8 that my Crown Vic had. I thought car mfgrs were on a "weight loss" program as a way to improve mileage but this seems really odd to me.

Anyone got any input. I know there are at least one other Taurus thread going but I thought this specific item needed covering.

golfgod
I was about to question you on the weight of a Crown Vic until I went and looked it up! I cannot believe they are that light!!!!

Anyways concerning the Taurus... I was pulling up to a light with a driver in the lane left to me. I saw the car but didnt really give it much attention and just dismissed it as some brand new expensive luxury car... I then looked over to check it out and I was really impressed with how it looked then looked down at the wheels to see if there was an emblem on them (I was directly on the side)... by that point the vehicle was in motion again. He passed me up and I saw "Taurus" on the back... couldn't believe it!!!

Its a sharp looking car and I really hate the looks of many new cars.
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Old 09-04-2009, 10:58 AM
 
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I like the front end styling but the rear is just terrible.
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Old 09-04-2009, 11:00 AM
 
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I don't think the all aluminum 4.6 liter V-8 is all that heavy in the crown vic. I mean with all the piping and intercoolers the twin turbo 6 should weight the same as a small V-8 in the Taurus SHO.
You are right my best friend owns a 03 Mach 1 with DOHV 4 valve 4.6 and I was thinking of his car when I wrote it.
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