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Old 08-04-2011, 11:44 AM
 
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Not even close.

No agent or consumer has a right to enter private property based on lack of listing agent response to calls, lock box or not.

Sure they do. You just have to call and let the listing agent know. That is the way it works here in Virginia if the home is in the MLS.
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Old 08-04-2011, 12:14 PM
 
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If the home has a lock box and you have a buyer's agent then have the right to enter the property after attempting to contact the listing agent.
Just a practical question, because i am concerned about the vulnerability of lock boxes in general, how do you open the lock box without getting the code from the listing agent?
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Old 08-04-2011, 01:20 PM
 
Location: Tempe, Arizona
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Just a practical question, because i am concerned about the vulnerability of lock boxes in general, how do you open the lock box without getting the code from the listing agent?
Either the lock box is opened with an electronic key by the buyer agent, or the code is provided by the listing agent, either in the MLS private instructions or by directly contacting the agent. In any case, it's a violation of MLS rules to give the code or box access to a non-licensed person.

The electronic boxes, such as Supra, keep access records so that the listing agent knows which other agents opened the box.
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Old 08-04-2011, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Tempe, Arizona
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Not even close.

No agent or consumer has a right to enter private property based on lack of listing agent response to calls, lock box or not.
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Sure they do. You just have to call and let the listing agent know. That is the way it works here in Virginia if the home is in the MLS.
Uh, but then you got the listing agent's permission, right? That's what Mike said.

In our MLS, it depends on the instructions the agent puts in the MLS. Normally, we don't have to call the listing agent for access. Either it's vacant and the agent just uses their electronic key or code provided in the MLS, or we call the occupant to schedule a time.
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Old 08-04-2011, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Cary, NC
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Sure they do. You just have to call and let the listing agent know. That is the way it works here in Virginia if the home is in the MLS.
And that advice applies to the OP's location? It sure doesn't apply where I work, and apparently doesn't apply where Dave works, either.
Private property is private property, and entering without permission is trespassing. MLS entry does not grant blanket permission to enter, unless a local rule stipulates as much.
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Old 08-04-2011, 01:55 PM
 
Location: Cary, NC
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Just a practical question, because i am concerned about the vulnerability of lock boxes in general, how do you open the lock box without getting the code from the listing agent?

Unfortunately, we have only combo lockboxes in the Raleigh area.
One of our greatest vulnerabilities here is the agent who goes back without permission, but has access because they kept the combo.

It behooves a listing agent to routinely change the lock box or the combo to add a measure of security for the owner.
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Old 08-04-2011, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Tempe, Arizona
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Unfortunately, we have only combo lockboxes in the Raleigh area.
One of our greatest vulnerabilities here is the agent who goes back without permission, but has access because they kept the combo.

It behooves a listing agent to routinely change the lock box or the combo to add a measure of security for the owner.
Combo boxes are mostly the norm for REO's around here. The agents try to save $ by not buying Supra boxes for all of them. Several of the REO listing agents keep the same code for all their homes. It's sometimes easy to guess the code if you didn't look it up first.
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Old 08-04-2011, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Salem, OR
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If the home has a lock box and you have a buyer's agent then have the right to enter the property after attempting to contact the listing agent.

Not out here. The only way we can enter without calling the listing agent is if the MLS says we can. Gotta have permission to be on private property.
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Old 08-04-2011, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Cary, NC
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Combo boxes are mostly the norm for REO's around here. The agents try to save $ by not buying Supra boxes for all of them. Several of the REO listing agents keep the same code for all their homes. It's sometimes easy to guess the code if you didn't look it up first.
I can guess the codes on a lot of new construction, too.

We only have combo boxes. I wish electronic would become accepted.
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Old 08-04-2011, 02:18 PM
 
Location: Tempe, Arizona
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...In our MLS, it depends on the instructions the agent puts in the MLS. Normally, we don't have to call the listing agent for access. Either it's vacant and the agent just uses their electronic key or code provided in the MLS, or we call the occupant to schedule a time.
I should clarify that even if it's vacant, you still need permission to enter, which is normally granted in our MLS instructions.
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