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Old 03-14-2012, 08:23 AM
 
Location: Lakewood Ranch, FL
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She was allowed to clean out houses, and profit from the goods. This is something I think is unfair. But life itself is often unfair. I guess I just don''t see how the girl deserves the credit she's getting because she happened to be in a sitiuation she could profit from, that most people don't have.
I think you missed a part of the story. First, we are talking about items that were abandoned in homes that were eventually taken over by a lender. Willow's mom is an agent who listed and/or sold these homes to investors who wanted the homes cleaned out. Willow saw a chance to both provide a service and make some money. There are adults who provide the same service. There's nothing opportunistic or unfair about it.

You may argue that there's nothing special going on here and that's your legitimate opinion but obviously there are a number of other people who see it as an exceptional story about a 14 year old who saw an opportunity, worked hard to make money, and then leveraged that money into something greater. It is, in every sense, an example of the American Dream.
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Old 03-14-2012, 08:48 AM
 
Location: DFW
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Good for you Willow!!

Success is having good luck/opportunity and then making something out of it. The average 14 year old would have let this opportunity slide by.
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Old 03-19-2012, 12:29 PM
 
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I recently bought a foreclosure and I was disgusted to learn from the neighbors that expensive personal items such as a piano and a riding lawnmower were taken from the property by the people who cleaned out the house for the bank. The former owners should have been allowed to retrieve those items.

I was further disgusted when it was apparent that they had also stolen fixtures from the property--including fencing around the yard and fence posts. If people leave unwanted items, I see no problem with someone taking them, but if locks are changed and people are denied access to their possessions then that is wrong. I'm not speaking to the situation in this story, because I don't know which was the case.
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Old 03-19-2012, 12:56 PM
 
Location: DFW
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I recently bought a foreclosure and I was disgusted to learn from the neighbors that expensive personal items such as a piano and a riding lawnmower were taken from the property by the people who cleaned out the house for the bank. The former owners should have been allowed to retrieve those items.

I was further disgusted when it was apparent that they had also stolen fixtures from the property--including fencing around the yard and fence posts. If people leave unwanted items, I see no problem with someone taking them, but if locks are changed and people are denied access to their possessions then that is wrong. I'm not speaking to the situation in this story, because I don't know which was the case.
The former owners did have an opportunity to retrieve those items. After a foreclosure sale (and redemption period, if applicable) they will receive a Notice to Quit which gives them until a certain date to vacate the property. If they do not leave, they will be served with eviction papers which will contain a court date x days from now. If the bank wins the right to evict, the eviction date will be set shortly thereafter.
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Old 03-19-2012, 03:10 PM
 
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The former owners did have an opportunity to retrieve those items. After a foreclosure sale (and redemption period, if applicable) they will receive a Notice to Quit which gives them until a certain date to vacate the property. If they do not leave, they will be served with eviction papers which will contain a court date x days from now. If the bank wins the right to evict, the eviction date will be set shortly thereafter.
Agreed, that's how it's supposed to work. But if my neighbors and the former owner are to be believed, then the locks were changed before the stated date and the house was subsequently emptied of all that remained. (I'm sure you've read that not all foreclosures have been on the up-and-up.)

But, even if the neighbors and the former owners were not being fully truthful, those who cleaned out the house had no right to take fencing and other fixtures.
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Old 03-19-2012, 03:24 PM
 
Location: DFW
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Agreed, that's how it's supposed to work. But if my neighbors and the former owner are to be believed, then the locks were changed before the stated date and the house was subsequently emptied of all that remained. (I'm sure you've read that not all foreclosures have been on the up-and-up.)

But, even if the neighbors and the former owners were not being fully truthful, those who cleaned out the house had no right to take fencing and other fixtures.
They are supposed to change locks to secure the property, but leave one the same until the eviction is complete, right? I think that's what I remember from my days working in the post-foreclosure department.

Absolutely agree about the fencing and fixtures.
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Old 03-20-2012, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Surprise, Az
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She was allowed to clean out houses, and profit from the goods. This is something I think is unfair. But life itself is often unfair. I guess I just don''t see how the girl deserves the credit she's getting because she happened to be in a sitiuation she could profit from, that most people don't have.
I would say most of the stuff left behind is junk. A lot of flippers just toss it or hire crews to toss it. Advertise on craigslist and to real estate/flippers as a trash hauler, you will get paid and can keep the better stuff to sell on craigslist. Don't complain, do something about it.
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Old 06-21-2012, 10:43 AM
 
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She was allowed to clean out houses, and profit from the goods. This is something I think is unfair. But life itself is often unfair. I guess I just don''t see how the girl deserves the credit she's getting because she happened to be in a sitiuation she could profit from, that most people don't have.

wondering if you've ever set foot in a foreclosed home. often people just leave. the banks in turn call out companies to clear out the homes. more often than not, usable furniture, clothing and other merchandise just gets dumped. some people noticed this and are profiting from the situation by recycling products and offering well priced goods on ebay and craigslist. i'm sure you'd rather see perfectly usable stuff at the local landfill
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