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Old 05-01-2012, 01:06 PM
 
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I have seen this on signs near those traffic cameras.

Photo enforced, includes right turn.

So, does this mean we cannot make a right on red after stopping?
Where online does it explain this?

Or are they just saying, if you don't stop, but roll thru the red light while making a right, you will get a ticket?
Help?
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Old 05-01-2012, 04:22 PM
 
Location: Weston, FL
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Red light cameras are a scam.
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Old 05-01-2012, 06:27 PM
 
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It means no rolling stops. You must come to a complete stop first before turning right. If you roll at all, you automatically get a ticket.

I agree they are a scam by the police department to make money. There is no legal basis and if you fight the ticket in court, a judge would throw it out in a heartbeat. The problem is this... it will cost you more to go to court than to pay the ticket. The cops realize this and set the ticket amounts low enough to deter people fighting it. Most people will just pay the ticket to avoid the stress. They have it down to a science.

I believe there is a case going to federal court to make it a federal ban on these traffic cams, but I won't hold my breath.
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Old 05-02-2012, 02:52 AM
 
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I agree they are a scam by city hall to make money. There is no legal basis and if you fight the ticket in court, a judge would throw it out in a heartbeat. The problem is this... it will cost you more to go to court than to pay the ticket. The state realizes this and sets the ticket amount low enough to deter people fighting it. Most people will just pay the ticket to avoid the stress.
Corrected it for you. Your local city hall initiates the scam, and the fine is a uniform $158 set by the state.

By the way, there was a recent article about the city of Fort Lauderdale approving a few dozen more cameras in the name of "safety", even after it was determined the number of accidents at certain intersections with cameras had increased. Safety, my ass.
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Old 05-02-2012, 08:06 AM
 
Location: Miramar, FL
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It's odd though how other cities like NYC have had these for years.

I have to drive through Hialeah every day on my way to work and I noticed they took down 2 camera's on Okeechobee Rd. by the Metro Rail Station and the other one that was on Okee and 12th Ave.

I wonder why.
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Old 05-02-2012, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Weston, FL
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Also I believe these cameras are rub by some private company out of Arizona. I heard it on the radio I think.
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Old 05-02-2012, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Weston, FL
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It's odd though how other cities like NYC have had these for years.

I have to drive through Hialeah every day on my way to work and I noticed they took down 2 camera's on Okeechobee Rd. by the Metro Rail Station and the other one that was on Okee and 12th Ave.

I wonder why.
I think every city goes through the same phases.

1. Hey look, we can do these speed cameras and get mad $ and not send the cops out to patrol the streets!
2. Implement
3. A bunch of rear-enders ensue.
4. Cameras get legally challenged.
5. Cameras get old and need maintenance/repair.
6. Oh, noes, these things need maintenance? How much does that cost?
7. Crap, we can't afford them.

P.S. Didn't know NYC had them. Back when I lived in NYC there were none. Anyway, NYC, especially under Bloomberg, is a nanny city. One of the reasons I prefer Florida is because there is less nanny state BS here. And I would like it to remain like that.
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Old 05-02-2012, 11:09 AM
 
Location: Miramar, FL
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When I went back in 02 they had them.
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Old 05-03-2012, 04:03 PM
 
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The only reason the cameras exist is because few people challenge them. They just pay the ticket. If everybody would fight it in court, or organize to bring about a class action lawsuit, then the things would be ruled unconstitutional.

As far as "safety", that is what Adolf Hitler said to his people when he became dictator. Just give me these extra powers and I'll keep you safe. Every dictatorship in history did this. Unfortunately, the U.S. is going down the same path at a much slower rate which makes it less noticeable. Just wait until they install cameras everywhere like 1984. Its happening before our very eyes.
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Old 05-06-2012, 06:20 AM
 
Location: Jupiter
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NYC has had red light cameras for 20 or more years now...they are allowed a total of 40 but if you google it there seems to be 40 or so in each boro...the income generated is 52 million plus a year...they have requested the state to approve unlimited red light cameras and have also requested speed photo cameras...state approval is pending...

The speed limit in NYC is 30MPH on most roads and only 50MPH on expressway's/parkways...the cameras will be issuing a summons when you are 5MPH over the limit...what a joke that is...basically no one drives 30MPH and if you are not going 65MPH+ on the highways...the other motorists are tail-gaiting/cutting you off/etc....

If this bill passes...Bloomberg will have taken another step in eliminating vehicles driving in and around any boro in the great City of New York...
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