09-07-2010, 11:53 AM
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I'm just curious as to how this started. Its seems like the South Florida Area never used to be like this.
09-07-2010, 12:03 PM
Location: Boston MA, by way of NYC
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I touched on this with someone on the Miami page - I think that is just the way of the world period - not just here but in general everywhere. Can you find pockets of places that aren't that way sure but for the most part from Boston to Birmingham you will find this attitude. I think that having more foreign people here does make a difference as well but it isn't it completely - I think as you start to grow up and mature things that didn't bother you as a 20 year old are extremely irratating as a 30 year old and at 40 forget it. I think it is something with age and wisdom that causes us to think this way - I asked my mom when she started to think people were like that and said around 30 when se really grew up and realized what was important in life. Today it takes a little longer with the whole new wave of 30's being the new 20's and so on.
09-07-2010, 12:40 PM
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It can be found in other areas, but again, I think it's the level that Miami has it which is so disturbing. This topic has been touched on many, many times. I think even the Miami lovers have told us that it is all about "me" in Miami.
09-07-2010, 12:59 PM
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It can be found in other areas, but again, I think it's the level that Miami has it which is so disturbing. This topic has been touched on many, many times. I think even the Miami lovers have told us that it is all about "me" in Miami.
No more so than in LA or NY or Boston or Chicago or any city with international activity - it is the "all about me" syndrome. soon no one will be able to hide from it - it will reach all corners of the earth!
09-07-2010, 01:11 PM
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Fort Myers was like that and it is a much less-populated than Miami and the transplants are mostly from the Midwest. It was a very me-centric culture with pushy, rude and aggressive people. And no, not everywhere is like that. The South is very friendly with helpful, caring people.
09-07-2010, 01:16 PM
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It's ironic because you think it would be more omnipresent in third world countries where survival is so much tougher. The culture of a place seems to often define it and the older the country and culture, the seemingly more it is based in community. I hope this "me-first" attitude doesn't become America's greatest export.
09-07-2010, 01:23 PM
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It's ironic because you think it would be more omnipresent in third world countries where survival is so much tougher. The culture of a place seems to often define it and the older the country and culture, the seemingly more it is based in community. I hope this "me-first" attitude doesn't become America's greatest export.
LOL - I like this! I told this story before but feel it is worth telling again. In both China and India - people litteraly elbow their way onto the train or line or where ever the hell they are going - this was told to me be friends who are both Indian and Chinese and actually lived there so, I'm taking it as gospel. What is happening is that instead of conforming to the nicer ways of being, people are saying "eff that, if you elbow me, I will push you and knock you down" - then everything spirals out of control and gets worse and worse by the year.
To the other poster - SOME people are nicer in the south but some people are not so nice either people are what they choose to be nice or not so nice no matter where they live. NO, not every single person is nice in the south. On average there are more racists in the south I don't think of that as a particularly nice quality. But then again that is just me.
09-07-2010, 01:38 PM
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LOL - I like this! I told this story before but feel it is worth telling again. In both China and India - people litteraly elbow their way onto the train or line or where ever the hell they are going - this was told to me be friends who are both Indian and Chinese and actually lived there so, I'm taking it as gospel. What is happening is that instead of conforming to the nicer ways of being, people are saying "eff that, if you elbow me, I will push you and knock you down" - then everything spirals out of control and gets worse and worse by the year.more racists in the south I don't think of that as a particularly nice quality. But then again that is just me.
That's your stereotypical opinion. I saw more racists living in Fort Myers, Florida than I have ever, ever met in Knoxville, TN. In fact, I found more in Massachusetts. There weren't many, but there were a few.
In Fort Myers they would drop the "N" bomb like it was normal and we were suppose to agree with it. I waited on a customer that pulled that one time and I stopped everything and told him, "Look buddy. I will not even wait on you until you clean up the language. New day, new way, and just because I am white, don't assume I am prejudiced." I think I gave him a scare.
My husband is from The Midwest and he says The Midwest if full of racists and he jus doesn't see that here like he did in swFlorida.
You don't see it around here. I think people learned how to get along with one another a long time ago.
No. Of course not every single person is nicer in The South. But generally speaking, the day-to-day events are much more pleasant. It is a pure joy to chat with people while waiting in line, be waved at by strangers and let into traffic by people over and over again, all day long. Most people do not believe it until they actually see it.
09-07-2010, 01:48 PM
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That's your stereotypical opinion. I saw more racists living in Fort Myers, Florida than I have ever, ever met in Knoxville, TN. In fact, I found more in Massachusetts. There weren't many, but there were a few.
In Fort Myers they would drop the "N" bomb like it was normal and we were suppose to agree with it. I waited on a customer that pulled that one time and I stopped everything and told him, "Look buddy. I will not even wait on you until you clean up the language. New day, new way, and just because I am white, don't assume I am prejudiced." I think I gave him a scare.
My husband is from The Midwest and he says The Midwest if full of racists and he jus doesn't see that here like he did in swFlorida.
You don't see it around here. I think people learned how to get along with one another a long time ago.
No. Of course not every single person is nicer in The South. But generally speaking, the day-to-day events are much more pleasant. It is a pure joy to chat with people while waiting in line, be waved at by strangers and let into traffic by people over and over again, all day long. Most people do not believe it until they actually see it.
And, I think that is your stereotypical opinion - I was speaking more from experience on the racist issues. There is a difference to "me" from being a racist and being prejudiced - I am proud to be prejudiced! I am prejudiced agains all who are knowingly ignorant! I had an experience when I was 12 in Maryland where I was called a "half breed ******" - to this day I'm still not sure what the term means but I can tell you that it scarred me to the point that I probably would remember that ladies face if I saw her today - you know what my revenge is LOL - her white son (who was adorable) fell in love with me, it was a high school thing but he later went on to marry a puertorican/phillipine woman (LOVE IT). She lives in a trailor park and I'm about to buy a home - who had the last laugh!
Its weird I have met some of the nicest people in North Carolina but also some of the worst - I found the same in NY though. I think things are a little more complex in NY - people are faster by nature - different things intrigue them - so, you would be different with those friends - you know what I mean. I think things tend to be a little more simple in the south but still there is a me mentality there too.
09-07-2010, 02:06 PM
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Well, I'm sorry about someone being rude to you or calling you a "half-breed." What the heck is that, anyway? You are correct. Weird. I know Cher had a song long before your time. I think it meant native American.
I don't know a thing about North Carolina other than it does have a lot of transplants and that is why I steered clear of it. My area has some of the most wonderful people. Not everyone is nasty, everywhere, I promise you and holding an entire region accountable is unfair.
My dad was born in The Bronx and half my family are New Yorkers. No one is simpler down here. Life is just as complicated and the people are just as intelligent. But people have manners.
Don't get me wrong, so does my New York family. Everyone is polite and I think New Yorkers are very polite. But there seems to be something about south Florida that attracts a lot of people that are self-centered and have problems playing with others. Sometimes I wonder if there are a lot of people that are running because they don't get along with others and end of moving to Florida. That's very unscientific guess, though, so pardon me for pontificating out loud.
I hope things get better for you Chelsa. You are one of the good ones.
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And, I think that is your stereotypical opinion - I was speaking more from experience on the racist issues. There is a difference to "me" from being a racist and being prejudiced - I am proud to be prejudiced! I am prejudiced agains all who are knowingly ignorant! I had an experience when I was 12 in Maryland where I was called a "half breed ******" - to this day I'm still not sure what the term means but I can tell you that it scarred me to the point that I probably would remember that ladies face if I saw her today - you know what my revenge is LOL - her white son (who was adorable) fell in love with me, it was a high school thing but he later went on to marry a puertorican/phillipine woman (LOVE IT). She lives in a trailor park and I'm about to buy a home - who had the last laugh!
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People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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