Anyone have a problem with this? (Fort Myers, Lee: apartment, house, school district)

[rikoshaprl]

Citizen, How much do you think other workers pay for their insurance? Is there some reason teachers should get lower rates? Maybe I don't understand the question. You have choices:
1. Don't get insurance and pay for care out of pocket(you can go to the emergency room if you have to).
2. Get only catastrophic care insurance and pay for the small stuff out of pocket.
3. Shop for a better rate on your current coverage.

[citizen000483]

you see people on forums such as these and on tv shows all the time complaining about the 'lavish' benefits teachers get. the benefits (and the pay) for most florida teachers is anything but lavish. people with jobs that don't contribute near as much to society as teachers get better insurance for a heck of a lot cheaper for whatever reason many Americans do not value investing in education, but you would think with all the old people (who pay into the system but don't have kids attending) and all the tourism florida could easily afford an education system that would be the envy of most of america

[DelawareLiz]

I'm a Delaware teacher, and I will definitely not be teaching when I move to Cape Coral in three years. I really have it good here (as far as teaching). I pay a lot less for my health insurance and I get paid a lot more. Thanks for the insight on this thread....

[OrlFlaUsa]

Originally Posted by tomno00

don't worry, you can get on the public option once it comes out... right equal?

Better yet single payer .

[hiknapster]

Originally Posted by rikoshaprl

Citizen, How much do you think other workers pay for their insurance? Is there some reason teachers should get lower rates? Maybe I don't understand the question. You have choices:
1. Don't get insurance and pay for care out of pocket(you can go to the emergency room if you have to).
2. Get only catastrophic care insurance and pay for the small stuff out of pocket.
3. Shop for a better rate on your current coverage.

I wonder how much you paid for health insurance when you had your New York union job...

[Willikers]

I'm not sure why anyone resents teachers having health insurance. I never hear anyone complaining about the health insurance other salaried workers get. What am I missing?

[citizen000483]

Originally Posted by Willikers

I'm not sure why anyone resents teachers having health insurance. I never hear anyone complaining about the health insurance other salaried workers get. What am I missing?

good question...many many 'private' sector workers in reality work for PUBLIC companies...of which many are shareholders, including myself...i wonder how all the 'private' sector people would feel if shareholders were going to such lengths to reduce their salaries and take away health insurance...and when communities don't offer affordable health insurance to teachers it sends powerful messages..one being ********* and your family, but please educate ours like they were your own....

[hiknapster]

Originally Posted by citizen000483

good question...many many 'private' sector workers in reality work for PUBLIC companies...of which many are shareholders, including myself...i wonder how all the 'private' sector people would feel if shareholders were going to such lengths to reduce their salaries and take away health insurance...and when communities don't offer affordable health insurance to teachers it sends powerful messages..one being ********* and your family, but please educate ours like they were your own....

It happens every darn day.

The problem is fighting amongst ourselves over healthcare. That's exactly what big business wants. Big business tells us - through misinformation sent through several channels - that unions are breaking this country. Big business, that saw record profits while taking their business out of this country and/or reducing salaries and benefits, is reaping record-breaking profits while getting the average joes to eat their own.

I find it ironic that the people that had some of the best healthcare are the first to tell someone else to suck it up, though.

[citizen000483]

Originally Posted by hiknapster

It happens every darn day.

The problem is fighting amongst ourselves over healthcare. That's exactly what big business wants. Big business tells us - through misinformation sent through several channels - that unions are breaking this country. Big business, that saw record profits while taking their business out of this country and/or reducing salaries and benefits, is reaping record-breaking profits while getting the average joes to eat their own.

I find it ironic that the people that had some of the best healthcare are the first to tell someone else to suck it up, though.

completely agree with you..the political machine is broke...corrupt even. why is it that over 70% of congressmen are lawyers by trade?? where are all the blue collar workers, the teachers, the nurses, the small business owners, the investors, really anyone but the lawyers? both the republicans and the democrats are complicit in allowing the political debate to be centered around us vs them...very frustrating!

[hiknapster]

I really don't think it has anything to do with their occupation. Joe Schmo can take money from the lobbyists just as easily as anyone else. Maybe more easily.

The percentage of politicians that go on to work for the lobbyists is huge, too.

And the average guy is given this list of platitudes that he happily spiels off, never understanding that he's hurting himself. There's a saying that the poor vote rich. Well, the middle class are doing the same, what little there is left of them. People really don't understand how the government is run or what is going on. Basic stuff most people don't know. And that's part of the plan, too. Don't get them too educated, dontcha know. Gotta keep 'em down on the farm and fighting amongst each other.