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Old 11-28-2012, 04:18 PM
 
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Well it is very simple actually, if you think it's safe Breath deeply, if not it's time to skeedaddle.
Radon is naturally occurring the only way you can midi-gate it is with lots of ventilation.
"Radon
Radon is a chemical element with symbol Rn and atomic number 86. It is a radioactive, colorless, odorless, tasteless noble gas, occurring naturally as an indirect decay product of uranium or thorium."

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu...ear/radon.html
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Old 11-28-2012, 06:55 PM
 
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Sail Harbours problem is not Chinese Drywall, radon, crime or undesirable residents that won't clean up after their dogs, its jerks like HB.

Whoever they are it's obvious that they are not going away, they will resurface again on this forum or the others where they have posted a similar message.

HB is really ramping it up and has even posted specific buildings where I can say with certainty that not every unit in that building has been tested.

All of HBs posts on this site to are directed specifically at SH and I would bet HB is the author on other sites.

While it difficult to prove libel or defamation on the Internet, a pattern of this type of public attack is harassment.

With a little legal help, finding a pattern shouldn't be hard. SH leadership should explore this option with its membership.
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Old 11-29-2012, 05:36 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Sail Harbours problem is not Chinese Drywall, radon, crime or undesirable residents that won't clean up after their dogs, its jerks like HB.

Whoever they are it's obvious that they are not going away, they will resurface again on this forum or the others where they have posted a similar message.

HB is really ramping it up and has even posted specific buildings where I can say with certainty that not every unit in that building has been tested.

All of HBs posts on this site to are directed specifically at SH and I would bet HB is the author on other sites.

While it difficult to prove libel or defamation on the Internet, a pattern of this type of public attack is harassment.

With a little legal help, finding a pattern shouldn't be hard. SH leadership should explore this option with its membership.

Other than knowing it's a community, I hadn't even heard of SH until this post.

I quickly saw that HealthyBeach was just grinding an ax. I am sure others who actually have an interest in living there would see just the same.
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Old 09-15-2013, 03:43 PM
 
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I am an owner at this location and bought the place late 2008. It is currently on rent and I do my best to keep a close eye to the state of the community and the house.
A few things to point out
The crimes were high in 2009 due to a certain resident but this issue was sorted out. If you check online you will see that the crime rate is really low.
Not all of the houses have Chinese walls. Even if some do, many other options around were built around the same time with same methodology.
The houses are nice and there is lots of development going around the area. New malls and attractions are being built and it is right next to a hospital. There are schools nearby and it is close to Sanibel Island and a 15 min drive to the beach.
The radon level results are not accurate and Lee County is considered as a safe location and below the dangerous level. If you have concerns you can get the houses tested yourself.
The major downside is the management. They are total mess and can't perform basic duties. They are really picky about random things like, having a chair at the balcony or putting your closed thrash can out on the wrong day for thrash pick up. (You will get pictures in the mail and e-mail notification.A bit creepy being watched) But they don't really deal with the common complaints about pets or restrictions for cable providers for years. It is really hard to get a hold of them as they do their best to avoid you if concerns like these are brought up. The management fees are high for the services (930s per quarter.). I believe there is a class action law suit on progress against the management. Given the heat they are getting I don't see them being around for too long. Seems like the manager gets arrested every 2 years or so too.

The prices of the houses are relatively low and I can see them rising quickly once the issues with the management are sorted out. I believe it is still a good bargain for its current price.
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Old 09-17-2013, 06:27 PM
 
Location: Ocala
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I was a New Jersey DEP radon measurement specialist/mitigator for over 20 years, now retired in Ocala and can provide answers to all of your questions, but first, I'd be interested to know approximately what the elevated readings were that everyone is getting so excited over....anyone have info on that ?
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Old 09-17-2013, 06:36 PM
 
Location: Ocala
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That's true! Our friends did that, and so did brother-in-law. And it worked. But their A/C bills went through the ceiling because mitigation means sucking all the radon gas out every day with fans..
Actually that's not accurate. There is only one inline fan used with 3" PVC piping ductwork that draws air from under the floor slab and discharges it outside. The radon is removed from under the floor before it ever enters the living area and most fans run on 40 to 60 watts of power.....like operating a single light bulb for a month.
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Old 09-17-2013, 06:39 PM
 
Location: Ocala
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As I'm sure you're all aware, after WWII, tanks, bombs, and what not were buried throughout the state.
Every once in a while, you'll read about the stuff being dug up.
Might that be the cause?
No.....radon is naturally occurring. It comes from uranium deposits deep under ground and as they decay they give off radon 222 gas (radioactive) that seeps up into basements and through concrete floor slabs into homes. All homes have some you just want the Evelyn to be below 4.0 pCi/L.
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Old 09-17-2013, 06:49 PM
 
Location: Ocala
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No, they aren't. There is not one scientist who will say what level of exposure, and for how long, is bad for everyone.

Your simple "go look on google" comment only proves that point.
Nonsense....the US EPA guideline is 4.0 pCi/L as it is for most civilized nations on this planet.....some vary a little but not by much. The reality is that no amount of radiation is safe so your risk of lung cancers increases with length of exposure. Anyone who thinks long term exposure to low level radiation isn't harmful to humans needs his head examined.
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Old 09-18-2013, 07:57 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Nonsense....the US EPA guideline is 4.0 pCi/L as it is for most civilized nations on this planet.....some vary a little but not by much. The reality is that no amount of radiation is safe so your risk of lung cancers increases with length of exposure. Anyone who thinks long term exposure to low level radiation isn't harmful to humans needs his head examined.


Really? So, you are telling me that if I am exposed to 3.9 pCi/L 24 hours a day 7 days a week, I am going to be perfectly okay from any affects of radon?

Where can I find a real scientist that would say that you're okay with that scenario.


Your second statement seemingly contradicts your first (in my opintion) and I think the EPA also agrees:

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Sometimes short-term tests are less definitive about whether or not your home is above 4 pCi/L. This can happen when your results are close to 4 pCi/L. For example, if the average of your two short-term test results is 4.1 pCi/L, there is about a 50% chance that your year-round average is somewhat below 4 pCi/L. However, EPA believes that any radon exposure carries some risk - no level of radon is safe. Even radon levels below 4 pCi/L pose some risk, and you can reduce your risk of lung cancer by lowering your radon level.

Again, I'll restate my quote.

No scientist will say how much and for how long exposure is going to be bad for everyone.

Please show me differently.
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Old 09-18-2013, 08:50 PM
 
Location: Ocala
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Really? So, you are telling me that if I am exposed to 3.9 pCi/L 24 hours a day 7 days a week, I am going to be perfectly okay from any affects of radon?

Where can I find a real scientist that would say that you're okay with that scenario.


Your second statement seemingly contradicts your first (in my opintion) and I think the EPA also agrees:




Again, I'll restate my quote.

No scientist will say how much and for how long exposure is going to be bad for everyone.

Please show me differently.
You nitwit.....your asking nonsense. The EPA along with most of the governments of civilized nations on this planet established the guideline of 4.0 pCi/L because it was a balance of what they felt to be a safe number and an achievable number in mitigating.....not because no one will ever come to harm at any number below 4. Clearly that depends on what each individual is predisposed to being affected by.....children are more at risk than adults. Now, if you would like to pose a question that can be answered in black and white ill be happy to provide an answer but let's eliminate the unanswerable nonsense you seem to be prone to asking ?
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