02-22-2009, 08:13 AM
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How is the area around Del Tura? We are thinking of retiring there. How is the area as far as shopping, medical, safety etc? Is the housing there as nice at the web site shows it to be?
02-22-2009, 11:09 AM
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Is this still a mobile home community? When I drove through there several years ago, I thought it was very lovely. However, mobile homes lose value and in this economy, you can buy a house for the price of the homes in Del Tura.
I apologize if I'm thinking of someplace else, but when I was in North Fort Myers, I remember the homes and they were listed for well over $100,000. I bought a mobile home once and it was the worst decision I ever made, although it wasn't in Florida. I couldn't sell it for half of the original price.
On the other hand, one reason I looked at Del Tura is that I've often thought of living in an over 55 community where all the amenities are provided and Del Tura has a lot to offer its residents. Just make sure you want to live there forever. For the past few years the number of preowned mobile homes for sale in North Fort Myers has skyrocketed.
02-23-2009, 01:37 PM
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Del Tura is a pretty community. They have manufactured homes there, not mobile homes. The outside part is usually a stucco type w/a wooden frame around it for decorative purposes. When we looked at homes there 3 years ago, there were a number of homes with white termite tents around them and little "quarantined" signs. That did not impress me.
They have 3 or 4 pools around the community and a nice looking golf course (I don't golf, so I can't tell you about that). They also seem to have a lot of activities for the residents, much like any other similar community.
Shopping here is ok. There's a Publix just across 41 from Del Tura and several shopping centers in the area. Walmart is close by, as are Home Depot, Lowes, Bealles, Sears Grand, BJ's, and Target, to name the big guys. If we need anything from other stores, we go to Ft. Myers, just across the bridge, or Cape Coral.
I have no complaints about medical. Ask around, people are always willing to share the good, bad and ugly stories about their doctors. I have a friend who volunteers at the hospital, so she was a good source there. The problem is snowbird season. It's virtually impossible to get a doctor's appointment or get into an ER this time of year. Hospitals and dr's facilities are very poorly understaffed for that. If you or your spouse is a veteran, there's a terrific VA outpatient clinic about 15-20 minutes away in Ft. Myers. They're building a brand new one in Cape Coral within the next year or two.
I hope that helps. Feel free to DM me if you'd like.
BTW, we really enjoy it here - we live in Pine Lakes, which is close to Del Tura. The homes are also manufactured, but more along the lines of what I think Nancy is referring to. Yes, they do depreciate, but we plan on staying here for a long time. You can find very good deals right now, thanks to the housing problems. Best of luck.
02-23-2009, 03:26 PM
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A rose by any other name...
I also think if you own your own land it makes a big difference too. I'm going back several years, way before the current housing crisis, and I remember lot rents in the nicer N. Fort Myers communities were as much as $700 a month. I was under 55, but some communities had so many listings they were willing to bend the rules.
I've spent some time looking at homes on MHVillage.com and they have some listings at Del Tura and other nice communities.
RE: Mobile vs manufactured. Just want you to know I lived in a singlewide mobile for 7 years in NH, so I'm not being a snob. It was a 12 x 60 Landola. Back in 1987 when I purchased it, some of the newer doublewides were selling for over $100,000. I always thought mobile & manufactured were synonymous, sort of like housekeeper and domestic engineer.
I just looked up the words and, according to HUD [FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]
What are manufactured homes?
Manufactured homes (formerly known as mobile homes) can be a great alternative for first-time and other homebuyers. [/FONT]
[URL="http://www.hud.gov/homes/manufactured.cfm"]Manufactured (Mobile) Homes - HUD[/URL]
It doesn't really matter. All that does matter is that you are happy, healthy & safe wherever you live!
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02-23-2009, 03:34 PM
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That's true, Nancy, and I'm sorry if I implied snobby-ness, I had no intention of doing so.
Manufactured and mobile homes have distinct differences which have evolved over the years. In our community, which started 25 years ago, our homes have survived Hurricane Charley which did minor damage to lanais and carports. I think that says a lot for how they are made these days.
You will find some nice communities in this area and you'll find some dumps, too. You have to discover for yourself, I guess.
Our community has Leased properties (where I live - the community owns the land, we own the home) as well as Owned properties. I wanted to get away from land taxes, etc. However, we do pay monthly "lot rent" (I forget what the owners call it - like Nancy indicated, it's all semantics) which ranges from $500/month to over $1000/month, depending on whether you live on a lake site, golf course site, or otherwise.
Suggestion: Visit. And, if at all possible, come on down and rent for at least a season, maybe a year or so, to see if that's where you want to be. Believe me, people are very willing to rent these days if they can't sell.
02-23-2009, 06:08 PM
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Is this still a mobile home community? When I drove through there several years ago, I thought it was very lovely. However, mobile homes lose value and in this economy, you can buy a house for the price of the homes in Del Tura.
I apologize if I'm thinking of someplace else, but when I was in North Fort Myers, I remember the homes and they were listed for well over $100,000. I bought a mobile home once and it was the worst decision I ever made, although it wasn't in Florida. I couldn't sell it for half of the original price.
On the other hand, one reason I looked at Del Tura is that I've often thought of living in an over 55 community where all the amenities are provided and Del Tura has a lot to offer its residents. Just make sure you want to live there forever. For the past few years the number of preowned mobile homes for sale in North Fort Myers has skyrocketed.
I've also been looking at Del Tura. There are homes from 180,000.00 to 24,000.00 I don't think you can buy a house for 24,000.00 anywhere.
As far as retirement parks, and I've been researching for 2 years, this place seems to be pretty good, sidewalks, pools, shuffle board, tennis courts, their own bar, classes galore, pools galore, etc. etc. However I am unable to find out the monthly rent. I assume it's higher if one faces the golf course, but since I don't golf and never will, I wouldn't want to be near it anyway.
I just wrote to Del Tura requesting info, and tomorrow I may call them.
02-24-2009, 08:44 AM
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Good luck, Mrs. P. I hope you like it. Yes, prices down here have gone down significantly. FYI - as Nancy had mentioned, prices on pre-owned homes are a lot lower than new homes. 3 years ago, lot rent at Del Tura was around $500 for a home not on the golf course. That's what they quoted me, anyhow.
03-02-2009, 12:10 AM
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FYI, I just received an email with a quote of $890 a month for the lot rent for a home I saw listed. I hope I wasn't misunderstood before. Every person has an idea of where he or she wants to live, but I've been house hunting a lot and I can get a mortgage on a 3 bedroom pool home in Cape Coral for less than just the lot rent at many mobile home parks. Of course I won't have all the amenities offered. So it all depends on the lifestyle you desire. If I could pick an over 55 community in SW Florida, I'd probably choose Lakeside Plantation in North Port. There are beautiful villas listed from about $140K to $169K. But when I add the mortgage, the monthly association fee, the property tax, insurance and the CDD together, it's a little out of my price range.
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Anyone know what the lot rent is now...? or HOA of whatever it's called after you make a purchase of a home? Trying to figure out what all is and isn't included....
06-10-2011, 03:58 PM
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Anyone know what the lot rent is now...? or HOA of whatever it's called after you make a purchase of a home? Trying to figure out what all is and isn't included....
This is an old thread, but I doubt if the lot rent has dropped since 2009.
Lot prices will vary, depending on the one you choose. (inner lot, on the golf course, water view) You need to look at the listings or call the office.
You should also ask for the history, that is, how many times the rent has increased and by what percentage. I might be wrong, but I never heard of lot rent dropping, even when land value has decreased. As I said in my 2009 post, I received an email quoting $890 a month for a premium lot.
There are currently 133 homes for sale in Del Tura listed on the [URL="http://www.mhvillage.com/Communities/MobileHomePark.php?key=7192"]MHV site[/URL]. So far I can't find any ads showing the monthly lot fee.
I'm sure you already realize this, but if the rent is around $800 a month for a nice lot, in 10 years you've spent close to $100,000 on rent. However, it's your life and your money, and many people enjoy the lifestyle of a nice mobile home community.
Edit: I was curious, so I looked at several of the listings and couldn't find a lot rent, so you might want to contact a Realtor. Most of the [URL="http://www.mhvillage.com/Listings/SearchListResults.php?State=FL&City=North+Fort+Mye rs&g=All&p=1"]other communities [/URL]in the area list the lot rents, so maybe that particular community has a rule. I have no idea.
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Most Common Occupations - Sales and office occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Sales and related occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Office and administrative support occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Natural resources, construction, and maintenance occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Farming, fishing, and forestry occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Construction and extraction occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Installation, maintenance, and repair occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production, transportation, and material moving occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Transportation occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Material moving occupations (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)