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Old 01-24-2011, 06:33 AM
 
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short "disclaimer" article in FTW paper today to the effect that there are lower-income people in Westlake--and that one of the AA cited as living there just owns a lot--he is black golfer--forgot the name...
so article writers/fact checkers weren't even that accurate about checking the TAD info
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Old 01-24-2011, 08:11 AM
 
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short "disclaimer" article in FTW paper today to the effect that there are lower-income people in Westlake--and that one of the AA cited as living there just owns a lot--he is black golfer--forgot the name...
so article writers/fact checkers weren't even that accurate about checking the TAD info

The "writers" don't know enough about what they are writing to give a full report and to receive an income from the Star Telegram. They continue to publish inaccurate information and they lack the ability to punctuate and capitalize correctly.

Vernon Wells is the Black man that you speak of and he's not a golfer, he's a baseball player.

Mr. Wells owns a lot but is currently building a home in Westlake. Like Mayor Wheat stated, there are a number of Black people living in Westlake as well as other minorities.

When using the words black or white to refer to someone's race, the first letter should be capitalized. Black people, White people. Just a minor annoyance of mine when people don't do this. The Star-Telegram writers are the worst offenders.
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Old 01-24-2011, 01:26 PM
 
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the original article with the mistakes was NOT from the Star Telegram
and the FTW paper's article might have used Black or AA--I don't remember but it at least was trying to correct the inaccuracies of the original article
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Old 01-24-2011, 02:33 PM
 
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the original article with the mistakes was NOT from the Star Telegram
and the FTW paper's article might have used Black or AA--I don't remember but it at least was trying to correct the inaccuracies of the original article
The writers tried to correct the inaccuracies after several phone calls to them regarding their mistakes. It's their job to correct or retract an inaccuracies. That doesn't excuse them from making capitalization mistakes. They are supposed to be professional writers and are held to a higher standard than those of us babbling on in forums.
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Old 01-28-2011, 07:58 AM
 
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When using the words black or white to refer to someone's race, the first letter should be capitalized. Black people, White people. Just a minor annoyance of mine when people don't do this. The Star-Telegram writers are the worst offenders.
Where did you come up with this "rule" ?
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Old 01-28-2011, 08:31 AM
 
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Where did you come up with this "rule" ?

I stand corrected - according to AP writing styles, the terms white or black when referring to race do NOT have to be capitalized. However, many writers DO capitalize the words when referring to one's race as a matter of respect.

You can research it yourself and see several different points of view on this subject.

Here's one:

Why the 'B' in 'Black' Is Capitalized at DiversityInc - DiversityInc.com
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Old 01-28-2011, 08:40 AM
 
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I stand corrected - according to AP writing styles, the terms white or black when referring to race do NOT have to be capitalized. However, many writers DO capitalize the words when referring to one's race as a matter of respect.

You can research it yourself and see several different points of view on this subject.

Here's one:

Why the 'B' in 'Black' Is Capitalized at DiversityInc - DiversityInc.com
You didn't exactly position your post as an opinion/difference of style. If your thoughts now are "well I think it should be this way, and here's some support", that's fine. All good.
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Old 01-28-2011, 08:50 AM
 
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You didn't exactly position your post as an opinion/difference of style. If your thoughts now are "well I think it should be this way, and here's some support", that's fine. All good.

When I originally wrote the post, I thought that I was right and they were wrong. I was always taught to capitalize the words when referring to race. However, after your post, I thought it would be prudent to do more research. After doing so, I found several different opinions on the matter but the AP style of writing is what journalists use and AP dictates that the words are NOT to be capitalized. If you use Caucasian or African-American, then you should capitalize but not when using White or Black.

I'm the first person to admit when I'm wrong which is why I said "I stand corrected." Thanks for bringing it up.......we're now a bit more educated on the matter.
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Old 01-28-2011, 09:10 AM
 
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actually it is "social usage" to use colors for racial descriptions--using YELLOW for the Asian races which hopefully is no long used like it once was
using WHITE for Anglos/Caucasian is more slang than preferred
I don't know that capitalizing them really off-sets the slightly prejudicial tinge their history of useage has--but I confess I use them at times
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Old 01-28-2011, 09:47 AM
 
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actually it is "social usage" to use colors for racial descriptions--using YELLOW for the Asian races which hopefully is no long used like it once was
using WHITE for Anglos/Caucasian is more slang than preferred
I don't know that capitalizing them really off-sets the slightly prejudicial tinge their history of useage has--but I confess I use them at times

I hope I NEVER hear any of my friends, family or children refer to an Asian person as Yellow......YIKES!!!!!

It's much more socially acceptable to refer to Black people and White people with a color. Although, I admit it's not accurate and it confuses children because they are so literal. To them there are no black or white people. To them, people are brown, beige, tan, etc. -

I still think if you are going to refer to one as Black or White, you should capitalize the first letter of the word as a matter of respect but many will disagree and that's ok too.
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