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Old 02-24-2014, 05:23 PM
 
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Hey everyone my name is Peter and I am from Hartford CT. I am in much need of a change and have spent alot of time researching cities to live and the two cities that seem like the best fit for me are Austin and Fort Worth. The job market is tough in CT and would like to move somewhere where I have more job prospects (ALSO LOVE HOT SUMMERS WHICH TEXAS IS KNOWN FOR) About myself I am 27 years old and I have a bachelors degree in marketing and have 7 years sales experience (Cell Phones, Automobiles, and Appliances) I would like to find a job in those types of fields. So here are my questions?

1. Which city has a better job market Austin or Fort Worth?? I have been reading that Austin’s job market is very competitive due to many college students with social connections.

2. Which city has better Traffic?


3. Although I love a hot summer which city is less humid in the summer time


4. Being 27 and single which city offers a better singles scene and which city has better nightlife? How does Sundance and West 7th compare to 6th street and the warehouse district?

5. To live in down town which city has a better cost of Living? And how Much is a studio in Down Town Fort Worth.

6. Which city has friendlier residents? Meaning is both cities accepting of northerners? Which city has friendlier Ladies as well


Thanks in Advance for responses and God Bless!!
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Old 02-24-2014, 07:21 PM
 
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1) Job market depends on what you really bring to the table.
2) Traffic is what it is - get some good music.
3) Cities are not humid. Climate is. It all depends.
4) No clue.
5) It depends on what you get:>) Sorry but that is the truth. Everything is there for the taking.
6) Contact an escort service.
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Old 02-24-2014, 07:36 PM
 
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Haha could anyone else help ??
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Old 02-25-2014, 12:02 AM
 
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Threestep: Why even respond to a post if you literally have nothing to offer?

OP: I wrote a big response but my computer messed up. The biggest difference between the two cities is culture. Austin is liberal and Fort Worth is conservative. Both have strong economies, similar weather and great ladies.
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Old 02-25-2014, 11:01 AM
 
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Hey everyone my name is Peter and I am from Hartford CT. I am in much need of a change and have spent alot of time researching cities to live and the two cities that seem like the best fit for me are Austin and Fort Worth. The job market is tough in CT and would like to move somewhere where I have more job prospects (ALSO LOVE HOT SUMMERS WHICH TEXAS IS KNOWN FOR) About myself I am 27 years old and I have a bachelors degree in marketing and have 7 years sales experience (Cell Phones, Automobiles, and Appliances) I would like to find a job in those types of fields. So here are my questions?

1. Which city has a better job market Austin or Fort Worth?? I have been reading that Austin’s job market is very competitive due to many college students with social connections.

2. Which city has better Traffic?


3. Although I love a hot summer which city is less humid in the summer time


4. Being 27 and single which city offers a better singles scene and which city has better nightlife? How does Sundance and West 7th compare to 6th street and the warehouse district?

5. To live in down town which city has a better cost of Living? And how Much is a studio in Down Town Fort Worth.

6. Which city has friendlier residents? Meaning is both cities accepting of northerners? Which city has friendlier Ladies as well


Thanks in Advance for responses and God Bless!!


First of all, let me just say that Fort Worth and Austin are my two favorite cities in Texas and I have lived for multiple years in both places. Also, if you haven't already, I would tell you to visit both cities (but it sounds like you might already have done that).

To answer your questions:

1. The job markets in both cities are good, but different. If you were a software designer or had good skills writing code, I would tell you Austin (even for marketing and advertising positions, this is practically a must have for many positions). Fort Worth has a strong and up-and-coming Ad/PR industry and, with a more diverse economy (particularly with respect to manufacturing and transportation), has a lot of good opportunities for someone in sales and/or marketing. The job market is pretty competitive right now for almost any major city in Texas, and a lot of that has to do with the number of people looking at it from out of state. This can be a major disadvantage if you are looking at Austin, as a lot of companies won't even consider you if you aren't already living there and with the existing talent pool (not to mention the thousands more added every year by UT), they have plenty of choices. A big problem I've heard from employers in Austin that has added to the competitiveness of the job market are the number of people who don't particularly care where they work or what they do... just as long as it gets them to and allows them to live in Austin (this puts downward pressure on wages as candidates will accept less just to get a job in Austin).

2. Traffic is pretty rough in all parts of Texas, since we spent some 60 years or so building around our cars and have only recently realized that there are alternatives that worked pretty well for millennia before that. That said, I would give the edge to Fort Worth on this (depending on where you live/are commuting). Things are bad in Far North Fort Worth, especially the closer you get to Alliance and things have been bad northeast in the mid-cities (though with recent freeway reconstruction just about complete it should get better). Nearly anywhere else feels like you can get around town in about 15-20 minutes without much trouble. There has been a lot of construction lately, especially with the opening of the new Chisolm Trail Parkway (a toll road that will lead to the southwest), but it will be done in the next few months. Austin, on the other hand is getting to be a nightmare that shows no signs of improvement anytime soon. Much of this is due to natural conditions, being pushed up against the hills to the west and having only a handful of ways across the Colorado River, and so you end up with a lot of freeways that stretch north-south, without much east-west. But the biggest thing for Austin is that with the amount of growth that it has seen in such a short amount if time, it simply could never possibly keep up even if it were to pour all of its resources into building new roads. It has a great bus system, but its rail line to this point isn't much to brag about.

3. Humidity isn't much of an issue in either city. Austin's weather is milder and is great for getting outside, but it also (to me at least) feels like a giant tease sometimes - I like having seasons and Austin just never quite seems to really have them (except for summer of course which definitely hits hard). Fort Worth's weather can be much more unpredictable and extreme - I'm not kidding when I tell you that you can have all four seasons in a single week, going from 97 degrees and sunny to 65 degrees and fall-like to 25 degrees with ice and snow and then back up to 85 degrees. But, generally, there are pretty clear and distinct seasons and you'll get to see some amazing thunderstorms (to me that's a plus, others hate it).

4. You really can't go wrong here. Austin is Austin and has become a magnet for singles from across the country and it is a college town. It's pretty balanced from a girl-to-guy stand point, but understand that you will be dealing with a LOT of guys from UT and it can get a little obnoxious sometimes, especially if on 6th street (although there are plenty of places to get away from all of that). Fort Worth, I'd say is a little more of a quality over quantity type of situation. You've got TCU there and, well let's be honest, if there's a better concentration of knock-outs in the state, I'd like to see it, and they're generally pretty laid back and surprisingly level-headed (but TCU is a very very small school when compared to UT, so even with the number of recent grads sticking around, it can't compete on numbers alone). Downtown Austin is great, but you really have to get off the beaten path more and more these days. Fort Worth has a good night scene (especially around W7 and Sundance Square) and has a really strong up-and-coming live music scene in several bars around W7 and in the Near Southside along Magnolia (anyone who thinks of Fort Worth only in terms of the Stockyards is missing out). Both Austin and Fort Worth are bar towns as opposed to club towns. Like I said, you really can't go wrong. A quick note about culture (if you care) in either city - Austin definitely has the lead in the state on indy-culture, live music, etc. (although several other cities are bringing competition); Fort Worth, however, has Austin beat with room to spare when it comes to high-culture (incredible museums with world-class art collections, a great symphony, the Texas Ballet and a fantastic opera company that has been on a major ascent in recent years). So while Fort Worth is still well behind Austin's indy art and music scene, it does offer several more options for taking a girl out for a more cultured/upscale night on the town (without the undeserved arrogance and pretentiousness that you'd find in say... oh, I don't know... Dallas). I bring this up because a lot of people not familiar with Fort Worth (or stuck only with the image of the Stockyards) tend to be surprised by some of the very impressive cultural offerings there in the city (thank you oil money!).

5. Austin has pretty high rent for Texas (almost always has/will because of the number of college students) and is only going higher (especially if you want to be anywhere near downtown, South Congress, etc.). You can get really good value in Fort Worth and, while I'd probably rather go out for a bachelor party in downtown Austin, I'd rather live in downtown Fort Worth. Both downtowns are great and only getting better, but it's probably still more affordable to live downtown in Fort Worth.

6. Both are extremely friendly cities (you're not going to get the anti-northern treatment that you might expect). There are exceptions to this of course. For Austin, as soon as you get out of the city proper into the surrounding communities you will be despised - not for being a northerner, but for being from out of state and adding to the traffic problem. Austin lives up to its reputation for being laid back in all instances except for when driving (I don't know what it is, but as soon as they get behind the wheel, all of that laid back attitude goes right out the window and they become aggressive and spiteful). Within the city, Austin is very liberal, but outside of the city it can get very conservative and, probably as a result of it being the state capital and center of politics, I've found that liberal or conservative, people in Austin just seem to wear their politics on their sleeve more so than what you find in Fort Worth. Fort Worth, as a whole is probably center-right - you've got several areas that are quite liberal and take pride in their progressive attitudes toward things (i.e. the Near Southside) and you'll definitely find people who are die-hard conservatives, but it just isn't as much of a common topic of everyday conversation in the way that it is in Austin. In Austin, politics is more something that defines who you are, in Fort Worth, politics has tended to be a bit more private. One other thing to note about Fort Worth that might interest you is that the Bass family (Fort Worth's patron billionaires and the owners/developers of Sundance Square, Bass Hall, etc.) are all Yale graduates and have homes in CT.

Alright, so I went a bit overboard in my response so I'll ask you a question: What made you pick these two cities (of all cities in Texas) and how did Fort Worth (which is often overlooked, even in Texas) make it on your radar? It's something I'm always interested in.

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Old 02-25-2014, 01:40 PM
 
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Thank you for your response! My whole life I have always wanted too move To Texas and Fort Worth seems like a true Texas city . I have heard the residents are amazing people, the beautiful things the Bass brothers have done with down town. This citys seems like it's only going to get better and better!! The job market in Texas is much stronger than most states(if not all). The kid in me is telling me to pick Austin but the adult in me is telling me Fort Worth. I do like the cost of living in Fort Worth and the less traffic in Fort Worth. But all I keep hearing is how great austin night life is. Which city has the better nightlife???
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Old 02-25-2014, 02:38 PM
 
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Greetings:
I have a phone interview coming up very soon in Fort Worth. I anticipate getting the job and relocating from California. I am looking for apartments - 2 bedrooms, as I will be bringing my 7 year-old grandson with me. Can someone tell me where to look for reasonably-priced apartments that are kid-friendly? My grandson is very sociable, and loves making new friends. What zip codes shall I pay attention to when looking for apartments? I will be coming from a fairly rough area in Vallejo, CA, and I want my grandson (and myself) to be relatively safe.

Thank you for any input. grammyno1
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Old 02-25-2014, 02:41 PM
 
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I've lived in both cities. Austin is awesome and I love visiting it, but Austin is harder for day to day life. Fort Worth is so much easier and I love living in it, everything is very accessible (assuming you don't live on the far north side of town). Austin is 3 hours away, if you really need your night life fix go down for the weekend, it's only a 3 hour drive down I-35.

Pretty much everything RMFW said is right on the money.
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Old 02-25-2014, 02:55 PM
 
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Thank you for your response! My whole life I have always wanted too move To Texas and Fort Worth seems like a true Texas city . I have heard the residents are amazing people, the beautiful things the Bass brothers have done with down town. This citys seems like it's only going to get better and better!! The job market in Texas is much stronger than most states(if not all). The kid in me is telling me to pick Austin but the adult in me is telling me Fort Worth. I do like the cost of living in Fort Worth and the less traffic in Fort Worth. But all I keep hearing is how great austin night life is. Which city has the better nightlife???

That's a really tough question to answer because they are both great for nightlife (unless you're asking someone from Dallas, in which case you'll hear about how Fort Worth has all the nightlife of a bingo parlor in a desert ghost town).

Overall, I'd probably give the nod to Austin on that (though I personally prefer Fort Worth). There are more options and variety and it's more established, but there is also a LOT of hype (much of Austin's more recent economic growth has centered on Entertainment and hospitality, especially oriented toward pulling in tourists and convention goers, so the nightlife sometimes seems like it is taking on an industrial scale which is both good and bad).

This is going to sound like blasphemy to a lot of people, but I actually think that Fort Worth's nightlife is a little more laid back than Austin's - strictly in the sense that in Austin it is easy to feel like you are in one giant competition to prove that you are in the know (if a band has hit the radio, you shouldn't be listening to them... if everyone is going to a particular bar, it's because that bar isn't cool anymore and you should be going somewhere else). This is a horrible blanket statement, but, there is definitely a "cult of Austin" thing going on right now. It's gotten to the point to where trying to suggest that there is anything even remotely wrong with Austin is like having a conversation with the President of the New Jersey Chapter of the Bruce Springsteen Fan Club and saying his music is only "okay." That said, Austin has built up a great culture of people in the bar/restaurant industry who are willing to experiment and take on risks. Fort Worth is getting there in that respect, but still has some ground to make up. Nevertheless, Fort Worth is still a major city and there are plenty of fun places to go out at night without ever getting board. Fort Worth also has a higher girl-to-guy ratio, I believe in the late 20s demographic, so it's got that in its favor, and the girls are beautiful in both towns. I'll put it this way... I've had some fun nights that I can't remember in Austin, but I met my wife in Fort Worth.

You're going to have fun in either city, that's for sure, and if you want to take a weekend trip, it's a pretty easy drive (3.5 hours which is short for Texas). Also don't forget that it's a lot easier to have fun in a city when you've got a good job that's providing you with a decent paycheck.

Both Austin and Fort Worth are "true" Texas cities. Fort Worth just might be the most authentic major Texas city. Glad to hear you've got Fort Worth on your list (most people, especially from out of state, overlook it or just lump it in with Dallas, so I was surprised to see you narrow it down to these two, especially since they are similar in a lot of ways, but different in many others). All of this also depends on how long you're looking at being in whatever city you choose - both are growing and are getting cooler everyday, I just think that one of them as more potential over the long-run. Pick either city and you'll probably be happy, just be sure to visit the other one often.

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Old 02-25-2014, 04:36 PM
 
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I'm just curious how does Fort Worths job market compare to Dallas which is better?
Also which has a better nightlife Fort Worth or Dallas? Just curious
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