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Old 01-29-2014, 08:57 PM
 
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Increasing cable bills have renewed my interest in antenna TV. The FCC prediction for my address does not look promising. I have no trouble getting the three local stations with a $5 antenna.

FCC Digital TV signal
Strong Signal WBPH IND 60-1 Hi-V (-19 dBm)
Strong Signal WLVT PBS 39-1 UHF (-33 dBm)
Strong Signal WFMZ IND 69-1 UHF (-34 dBm)
Weak Signal WPVI ABC 6-1 Lo-V - Philadelphia (-78 dBm)
Weak Signal WBRE NBC 28-1 Hi-V - Scranton (-81 dBm)
Weak Signal WYOU CBS 22-1 Hi-V - Scranton (-82 dBm)
Weak Signal WNEP ABC 16-1 UHF - Scranton (-84 dBm)
Weak Signal WVIA PBS 44-1 UHF - Scranton (-85 dBm)
Weak Signal WOLF FOX 56-1 UHF - Scranton (-86 dBm)
No Signal KYW CBS 3-1 UHF (-90 dBm)
No Signal WPHL MYTV 17-1 UHF
No Signal WCAU NBC 10-1 UHF
No Signal WHYY PBS 12-1 Hi-V
No Signal WUVP UNIVISION 65-1 UHF
No Signal WGAL NBC 8-1 Hi-V
No Signal WYBE ETV 35-1 UHF
No Signal WPPX ION 61-1 UHF
No Signal WNJT PBS 52-1 UHF (-99 dBm)

If you anyone is getting stations in the -70 dBm to -90 dBm range can you suggest a model antenna and tell me how you have it mounted (height etc)

Thank you
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Old 01-30-2014, 06:12 AM
 
Location: MMU->ABE->ATL->ASH
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Getting over South Mountain is going to be the issue to get the PHL stations.
You are to far out to get the NYC stations, WB/S is a distance, and there are hills/mountain in the slate belt to get over.

You would need to put up a antenna high enough to get over the mountain, or just mount your antenna on WFMZ tower (JK). Not sure it helps much, (and not sure it will withstand court challenges) but there is internet based https://www.aereo.com/ for ~8/Month NYC now, PHL coming (or so they say).

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Old 01-30-2014, 06:25 AM
 
Location: Vallejo
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Aerial is probably your only bet, and even that's dubious.
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Old 01-30-2014, 07:52 AM
 
Location: northwest Illinois
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Keep in mind if you have internet access, there's MANY sites which are free and allow you to watch tv station feeds and even free movie sites as well.

I can provided some links I use, if you like?
Otherwise, like others have said due to your geography a HIGH mounted DTV antenna with a preamp at the antenna might be your only answer.
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Old 01-30-2014, 08:54 AM
 
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Another suggestion would be to get a Netflix membership as you can view lots of TV shows (although not live) besides movies and could be another good solution.
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Old 01-30-2014, 09:05 AM
 
Location: SE WI
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I just purchased a Clearstream Micron R and increased the amount of channels I could receive from 8 to 16. Sells for about 99 bucks but found a used one on Ebay for $15. My house is about 32 miles from the closest antenna.
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Old 01-30-2014, 09:12 AM
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Need a good antenna with amplifier. I have good luck with the one that look like a V. They are really directional. You might be able to pick up the Scranton stations IF you have a clear line of sight to them.

Ask people in the neighborhood and see what they are using. If you try an antenna be sure that you can return it. The good news with digital is you will get a picture or none. In between is very rare these days.
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Old 01-30-2014, 09:14 AM
 
Location: northwest Illinois
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Another suggestion would be to get a Netflix membership as you can view lots of TV shows (although not live) besides movies and could be another good solution.
Netflix is NOT free, and dtv IS!
As I posted above, many of the tv broadcasters across the u.s. have online feeds allowing you to watch for FREE. A simple google search will help find the sites for them.
I have several bookmarked.
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Old 01-30-2014, 10:50 AM
 
Location: USA
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Netflix is NOT free, and dtv IS!
As I posted above, many of the tv broadcasters across the u.s. have online feeds allowing you to watch for FREE. A simple google search will help find the sites for them.
I have several bookmarked.

I would be interested in these sites
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Old 01-30-2014, 11:30 AM
 
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Thank you for your suggestions. The internet is a difficult option for my father who swears he will die before he touches a computer. The three computers in the house are all 10 years old, and at least two of them cannot keep up with video. I have been waiting for aereo for over a year, but it is not even clear if when they finally come to Philadelphia if Lehigh Valley will be included.

As I understand it only NBC streams football games live on Sunday night, With CBS & Fox you must receive their TV station. ABC has moved almost all sports to ESPN which is the linchpin of basic cable.

Denny's Stacker antenna advertises that it will get signals 70 to 90 dBm down (Scranton) and even get you a shot at Philadelphia. But I was hoping for someone who has done it successfully before I pay someone to climb up on the roof.

Color TV became widely available when I was 8 years old, and for at least a decade or two after that point cable was not widely available. So people must have gotten Philadelphia stations at some point over the air.

My father is used to cable, but he is now spending more on cable than he does on food for himself.


To the respondent who gets TV from antennas 32 miles away, that distance should be no problem in a relatively flat area. I am 43 miles from both the Philadelphia and Scranton stations, and there are a lot of intervening hills. A 1000 ft antenna would have line of sight to 38.7 miles with no intervening hills. Since many antennas are taller than 1000' and they are constructed at high elevation, the 43 miles would be doable if there were no intervening hills.
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