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Old 04-03-2012, 04:06 PM
 
Location: ๏̯͡๏﴿ Gwinnett-That's a Civil Matter-County
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Anything worth doing is worth doing well.
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Old 04-03-2012, 07:22 PM
 
Location: Gainesville, VA
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Anything worth doing is worth doing well.
Absolutely. We had to have a silver maple taken out last fall. It was the biggest tree in the neighborhood. It had been in our yard for 5 years and well over 20 feet tall. It started getting sick at the base and the bark was splitting and falling off in large pieces. After having someone take it out by hand (his choice!), we discovered the tree had been planted at least 12 inches too deep by the builder and the wire basket had never been removed so the roots were girdled. So, I learned a lot about planting trees last year and what to do and not do. The red maple we put in is doing wonderfully.
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Old 04-04-2012, 03:34 PM
 
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My personal experience is that burlap doesn't decompose fast enough. I suppose different soils and conditions may change that but after listening to the same advice and following it and then later having to dig something up for another reason and still finding intact burlap I would now never leave anything on the root ball. Period.
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Old 04-04-2012, 04:37 PM
 
Location: ๏̯͡๏﴿ Gwinnett-That's a Civil Matter-County
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My personal experience is that burlap doesn't decompose fast enough. I suppose different soils and conditions may change that but after listening to the same advice and following it and then later having to dig something up for another reason and still finding intact burlap I would now never leave anything on the root ball. Period.
I've dug burlap out of the ground 5 years after planting and was still in pristine condition. I even took a picture of it so the event someone posts on a forum about it, I could post it. But I don't have that picture at hand at the moment.
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Old 04-05-2012, 05:05 AM
 
Location: Newport, NC
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Treated burlap will last awhile, untreated burlap is normally pretty well rotted within a year.
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Old 04-05-2012, 07:10 AM
 
Location: ๏̯͡๏﴿ Gwinnett-That's a Civil Matter-County
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Even if it rots in a year, there's still a big potential for air pockets when planting with it on, especially with wire baskets.

And if you don't remove the burlap, you're not going to be able to expose the root flare.
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Old 06-05-2013, 06:07 AM
 
Location: Geauga County, Ohio
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NO! NO! NO!

Take the burlap off! Take off the wire basket and anything else.

Also.... This is important.....
B&B trees are dug by mechanical tree spades. In the process, up to 12" of additional soil can be squooshed up against the trunk.
So REMOVE ALL SOIL against the trunk until you expose the root flare.
Landscapers that don't remove the burlap, or the wire basket are one thing:

L-A-Z-Y

I've seen trees yanked out 10 years after planting that barely had roots protruding the burlap, which, by the way, was NOT decomposed!

The old stile "untreated" burlap rots fast. Most burlap these days is treated to prevent rotting in the nursery rows (which makes sense) before the tree is sold...but it has the added affect of not rotting when planted.

And DEFINITELY don't leave the rope/twine on!!

My husband and I have planted a lot of trees. We sit the tree down and cut away all the burlap & wire at least down to the part sitting on the ground. The roots grow mostly out of the sides of the rootball, so the bottom piece isn't a big deal.
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Old 06-05-2013, 06:11 AM
 
Location: Geauga County, Ohio
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Absolutely. We had to have a silver maple taken out last fall. It was the biggest tree in the neighborhood. It had been in our yard for 5 years and well over 20 feet tall. It started getting sick at the base and the bark was splitting and falling off in large pieces. After having someone take it out by hand (his choice!), we discovered the tree had been planted at least 12 inches too deep by the builder and the wire basket had never been removed so the roots were girdled. So, I learned a lot about planting trees last year and what to do and not do. The red maple we put in is doing wonderfully.
A builder took shortcuts on landscaping?

You don't say!
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Old 06-05-2013, 06:42 AM
 
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Landscapers that don't remove the burlap, or the wire basket are one thing:

L-A-Z-Y

I've seen trees yanked out 10 years after planting that barely had roots protruding the burlap, which, by the way, was NOT decomposed!

The old stile "untreated" burlap rots fast. Most burlap these days is treated to prevent rotting in the nursery rows (which makes sense) before the tree is sold...but it has the added affect of not rotting when planted.

And DEFINITELY don't leave the rope/twine on!!

My husband and I have planted a lot of trees. We sit the tree down and cut away all the burlap & wire at least down to the part sitting on the ground. The roots grow mostly out of the sides of the rootball, so the bottom piece isn't a big deal.
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A builder took shortcuts on landscaping?

You don't say!
Its doubtful your advice will make a difference to the OP. The trees should have been planted by now since this thread was last posted in more than a year ago.
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Old 06-05-2013, 10:16 PM
 
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Wow who would have guessed burlap rootball trees would be a wedge issue for green industry professionals. Sounds like many of my weekly conversations over coffee at John Deere Landscapes with many of the local contractors.

To remove or not remove that is the guestion, Whether tis noble in the planting to...........
Funny when you read your previous posts from the distant past.
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