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Old 02-18-2008, 07:50 PM
 
Location: Iowa, Des Moines Metro
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I don't know! I'm not sure where they got the data. Someone mentioned that there was another map with similar updates coming out, so I'm curious as to what changes it will show...but if it's true, it'll be nice for people up north who want to grow southern live oak and magnolia.

p.s. Good news about the Prok Persimmon - I thought you may find some cold-hardy variety!
Yep it is good news about the Prok! Yah if the zone change is true that would definitely lead toward a new variety for people to grow, although I know quite a few people with Magnolias in Iowa... no southern live oaks tho!!
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Old 02-18-2008, 10:45 PM
 
Location: Floyd County, IN
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Yep it is good news about the Prok! Yah if the zone change is true that would definitely lead toward a new variety for people to grow, although I know quite a few people with Magnolias in Iowa... no southern live oaks tho!!
The zone change is never set in stone. The winters are highly variable in the middle of the US. A southern live oak would never survive heavy snows and temperatures lower than -10F. Most areas of Iowa have gotten colder than -10F so far this winter.
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Old 02-18-2008, 10:52 PM
 
Location: Iowa, Des Moines Metro
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The zone change is never set in stone. The winters are highly variable in the middle of the US. A southern live oak would never survive heavy snows and temperatures lower than -10F. Most areas of Iowa have gotten colder than -10F so far this winter.
So you're saying the zone changes aren't permanent? This would make more sense to me I guess. I know the climate hasen't changed here in my lifetime at least.
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Old 02-20-2008, 11:54 AM
 
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The winters are highly variable in the middle of the US. A southern live oak would never survive heavy snows and temperatures lower than -10F.
I have to agree with this - the live oak damages easily.

I used to live in Frederick, MD, and my hope was that if the zone changes are accurate, I would be able to grow southern live oak. I think they require a 7, and the animation showed Frederick changing from a 6 to a 7...
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Old 10-11-2014, 10:43 PM
 
Location: Holly Neighborhood, Austin, Texas
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What a strange tree/fruit. I got about a fifteen fruit this year on a two year (as long as I've owned it) old tree. 3 or 4 ripened back in July and fell off the tree. Just today I noticed one of the remaining ones ripened and another looks like it is in the process of doing so. The ripe fruit was very good but actually fell a little short compared to some of the grocery store ones. Thankfully it was not astringent at all. Now I'm wondering if the others will ripen at this late date.......I think it is a Fuyu variety.
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Old 10-12-2014, 08:09 PM
 
Location: Land of Free Johnson-Weld-2016
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It looks like the OP started the thread to discuss the American persimmon. I still have my two that I got several years ago. They grow really slowly and not a sign of any sexual activity on either one. I'm betting anything that I either got two males or two females.
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Old 10-13-2014, 08:07 AM
 
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Male flowers grow in clusters of 3 and female flowers are singular. Ideally, you would have 2 females and graft a male branch on one of them.
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Old 10-13-2014, 11:26 PM
 
Location: CA.
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Hi Garden Forum, I'm a first time poster in here.. but hopefully will start to post more, I just never noticed this forum before.

I'm wanting to know more about Persimmon trees, do any of you live in areas where these are a common tree?? When I lived in SE Iowa on the MO border, there were quite a few of these trees, but I have a feeling that is as far North as they grow... I'm wondering where I could aquire of one of these trees as you normally don't find them at a Lowe's or a regular nursery, etc....

I now live in Central IA and would love to be able to grow one of these trees, they are beautiful all year long and I hear they have a great tasting fruit.

Well thanks in advance for your answers, and if you don't have answers its okay because I asked something about this in the IA forum and got no replies... I pictured people looking at their computers like this...

Thanks Gardeners!
Check on line. Many nursery's ship bare root seedlings. I have purchased many hard to find trees that way.. I also ask my locals nursery's if they can special order a plant for me.

They only grow in zone 5.

Good Luck
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Old 10-14-2014, 07:40 AM
 
Location: USA
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The Arbor Day Foundation site does not list Persimmon Trees. I wonder why?
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Old 10-14-2014, 07:57 AM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC dreaming of other places
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I really like it when someone revive old posts and see if they will notice that the original post was in 2008 :-). Done this so many times when I was a beginner on CD.

Anywho.. I just bought myself an Asian persimmon "Fuyu" little tree, it was just one sitting at HD lot and been looking at it for at least a month. Now it's sitting in my back yard waiting to be put in the ground. I really like this kind of persimmon and prefer it over the other round one. They don't have that nasty taste if you bite into it when it's not totally ripe. Ton of these trees where in CA and I am assuming if HD is selling them then they will do fine here. I will give it a try and hope will have some fruit in a year or two.
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