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We are staying in Portland, Oregon and there are 3 of these pine trees in the backyard... Bunches of 5 needles 8-9 inches long, currently no cones on the trees, trees look younger between 20-30 feet tall. Torrey pine is the only type we found searching online, but are these common in the Pacific Northwest? Any other tree this might be?
According to the classification web sites, those trees you both mention have shorter needles...These needles are 8-9 inches long ... that is what is throwing me off. Other than needle length, I think western white pine fits best so far.
FWIW, the size and dimensions of the needle appearing rather long and rather thin do suggest one of the white or soft pines. western white pine (pinus monticola) and sugar pine (pinus lambertiana) are western natives occasionally planted but think pinus wallachiana (Himalayan white pine) from northern India and the western Himalaya is potentially a better match being more likely to be seen in gardens and has longer needles than the natives and more like the foliage in the picture, IMHO.
despite the 5-needles, pinus torreyana is actually more closely related to the 3-needled pines like ponderosa pine/p. ponderosa, coulter pine/p. coulteri, and grey pine
/p. sabiniana (often called red or hard pines as a group) and it's needles tend to be thicker than the ones in the picture. also, it is rather tender to cold and very rare in cultivation in the PNW.
without more pictures of the trees themselves and better yet pictures of the cones (which apparently aren't available) it's hard to make an absolute i.d..
Last edited by georgeinbandonoregon; 09-21-2017 at 10:49 PM..
There are over 100 species of pine from around the world, and many are planted as ornamentals.
You are apparently assuming that the pines in your yard must be west coast native species, and that is a rash assumption. There's a reason why the nursery business is such a major portion of Oregon's economy - it's because so many plants from temperate climates around the world do well there.
Pictures of both the cones and the bark would help a lot.
According to the classification web sites, those trees you both mention have shorter needles...These needles are 8-9 inches long ... that is what is throwing me off. Other than needle length, I think western white pine fits best so far.
again, I would suggest looking at pinus wallachiana which is a white pine with long needles (8") and is in commerce and in gardens in the PNW.
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