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that is funny that of course you posted the same "study" that you see when you google it. its not saying that any big trees on your yard add value but of course you dont read it and only see what you want to see. right? you and i both know that you didnt read anything except the headline and the first couple of sentences.
you keep bringing up random unrelated "points" because you either dont understand what they mean or because you are so desperate you will just throw out anything in the hopes that it sticks. government's having regulations regarding trees dont relate to them trying to preserve home values or have anything to do with people willing to pay more for houses with trees. in fact, its the opposite. if people valued the trees so much, they wouldnt need to have laws prohibiting the removal of trees.
i love trees. they are great. i have planted a bunch of trees on my property and i have always removed a bunch of trees from my property. but that doesnt mean that every tree should be saved. sometimes when someone asks what they should do about a tree some people will just always see to save the tree and then lie about their value. they are liars but think its ok because they are doing good by saving trees.
I think it was a good article to link to because it ties into what the OP was posting about, the large tree cracking his driveways.
It's the wrong tree for that house and location. It may be a different story if it was in a large backyard or with a much larger house.
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Homeowners who decide to go it alone should get advice from a local gardening shop before planting "willy-nilly," Nardozzi says, because this often results in planting the wrong plant in the wrong location. The result can be overgrown plants that cover the windows of a house or trees with roots that buckle a driveway.
"Do your homework," Nardozzi says, because a poorly landscaped yard negates your efforts to add value to the home.
I think it was a good article to link to because it ties into what the OP was posting about, the large tree cracking his driveways.
It's the wrong tree for that house and location. It may be a different story if it was in a large backyard or with a much larger house.
its important to read it and recognize that the study doesnt say that all trees add value. i appreciate your quote that emphasizes the point that if you want to add value with trees, you need to do it with thought. you only add value if you do a good job picking the right trees, locations and also maintain them well.
i just get annoyed when i see some people who are religiously opposed to cutting down any tree (typically other people's trees, not necessarily on their property) and advise accordingly instead of considering the individual circumstances and preferences of people asking for advice.
that is funny that of course you posted the same "study" that you see when you google it. its not saying that any big trees on your yard add value but of course you dont read it and only see what you want to see. right? you and i both know that you didnt read anything except the headline and the first couple of sentences.
you keep bringing up random unrelated "points" because you either dont understand what they mean or because you are so desperate you will just throw out anything in the hopes that it sticks. government's having regulations regarding trees dont relate to them trying to preserve home values or have anything to do with people willing to pay more for houses with trees. in fact, its the opposite. if people valued the trees so much, they wouldnt need to have laws prohibiting the removal of trees.
i love trees. they are great. i have planted a bunch of trees on my property and i have always removed a bunch of trees from my property. but that doesnt mean that every tree should be saved. sometimes when someone asks what they should do about a tree some people will just always see to save the tree and then lie about their value. they are liars but think its ok because they are doing good by saving trees.
Yeah, that's how the internet works. You have a question so you go to a search engine to see if there is an answer. In this case, two universities and the country's largest trade group have done studies to see how trees affect housing value. See, I did read it, contrary to your foolish argument. So now, rather than just a sole personal opinion there is a body of evidence supporting a position. Unfortunately for you, the evidence confirms the value of having trees on properties which is what I have been stating.
It is laughable that, rather than produce your own evidence of trees harming property values, you scoff at the process of citation and now claim that such are "unrelated." You have also fallen to the juvenile position of calling people liars because their opinions do not agree with yours. That's weak.
We will never have 100% agreement on all matters which is why we have laws of all kinds. Laws prohibiting the removal of healthy trees are enacted because doing so would affect those beyond the property lines and diminish the value and appeal of neighboring properties and the neighborhood in general. It would keep people who share your views from denuding properties to the detriment of the entire area. Trees provide valuable cooling shade and oxygenation and it is in the best interest of communities to encourage their maintenance.
I think it was a good article to link to because it ties into what the OP was posting about, the large tree cracking his driveways.
It's the wrong tree for that house and location. It may be a different story if it was in a large backyard or with a much larger house.
That is certainly a consideration but even the OP does not know what type of tree we are talking about or if it is responsible in any way for the driveway problems. The single closely cropped picture does not provide any evidence that the tree is inappropriate for its location.
Yeah, that's how the internet works. You have a question so you go to a search engine to see if there is an answer. In this case, two universities and the country's largest trade group have done studies to see how trees affect housing value. See, I did read it, contrary to your foolish argument. So now, rather than just a sole personal opinion there is a body of evidence supporting a position. Unfortunately for you, the evidence confirms the value of having trees on properties which is what I have been stating.
It is laughable that, rather than produce your own evidence of trees harming property values, you scoff at the process of citation and now claim that such are "unrelated." You have also fallen to the juvenile position of calling people liars because their opinions do not agree with yours. That's weak.
We will never have 100% agreement on all matters which is why we have laws of all kinds. Laws prohibiting the removal of healthy trees are enacted because doing so would affect those beyond the property lines and diminish the value and appeal of neighboring properties and the neighborhood in general. It would keep people who share your views from denuding properties to the detriment of the entire area. Trees provide valuable cooling shade and oxygenation and it is in the best interest of communities to encourage their maintenance.
you didnt read it. you just went back after my comment to try to get something you could say here to pretend you read it. if you read it then you would have seen its not as supportive of your position as you would like it to be.
ive never taken the position that trees harm property values. so now you have resorted to lying about my position because you arent capable of supporting your position. your position isnt really defensible so i understand your difficulty.
most places dont have laws preventing tree removal. everyone knows that trees are important. but everyone also knows that they may not want every tree on their property.
...... most places dont have laws preventing tree removal. everyone knows that trees are important. but everyone also knows that they may not want every tree on their property.
Actually that is incorrect, it is the exact opposite of what you're saying. Most cities everywhere in all of North America (Canada and USA) now do have tree protection bylaws and private tree bylaws for residential property owners that prevent tree removals. There are a multitude of reasons for these bylaws. Seriously a multitude.
If a tree on private property in a residential area is of a certain size and type the property owner is required by law to get it inspected and get approval (or refusal) for removal by a city hall authorized arborist/tree specialist and must pay a fee for a permit from city hall to have it removed. It must be removed by an authorized arborist/tree removal specialist too, not by the owner. If the owner does not follow the bylaws procedures and cuts the tree down without permission they can be charged a very hefty fine in the thousands of dollars and may be required to replace the felled tree with another tree. As a matter of fact, in some places even with a permit for removal a tree replacement might be a required condition of getting a permit for removal and the property owner must GUARANTEE that they will replace the tree.
I'd suggest that you should check out the city tree protection bylaws and requirements for your own city or municipality as well as random areas throughout the continent to find out about all that just for your own confirmation. Regardless of whether or not people are tree huggers or tree haters, all are required to follow any given municipality's tree protection bylaws and must understand that the rules are there for the protection of the public and the environment too, not only for the protection of trees and/or property owners.
Actually that is incorrect, it is the exact opposite of what you're saying. Most cities everywhere in all of North America (Canada and USA) now do have tree protection bylaws and private tree bylaws for residential property owners that prevent tree removals. There are a multitude of reasons for these bylaws. Seriously a multitude.
If a tree on private property in a residential area is of a certain size and type the property owner is required by law to get it inspected and get approval (or refusal) for removal by a city hall authorized arborist/tree specialist and must pay a fee for a permit from city hall to have it removed. It must be removed by an authorized arborist/tree removal specialist too, not by the owner. If the owner does not follow the bylaws procedures and cuts the tree down without permission they can be charged a very hefty fine in the thousands of dollars and may be required to replace the felled tree with another tree. As a matter of fact, in some places even with a permit for removal a tree replacement might be a required condition of getting a permit for removal and the property owner must GUARANTEE that they will replace the tree.
I'd suggest that you should check out the city tree protection bylaws and requirements for your own city or municipality as well as random areas throughout the continent to find out about all that just for your own confirmation. Regardless of whether or not people are tree huggers or tree haters, all are required to follow any given municipality's tree protection bylaws and must understand that the rules are there for the protection of the public and the environment too, not only for the protection of trees and/or property owners.
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i did check with my town before i moved into my current house and they said i can cut whatever i want down on my property unless it is subject to some kind of easement issue.
i noticed you used the word "cities" and you probably have a case if you focus on cities. but if you take all the towns in the US, id guess that most of them have similar rules as mine. but i certainly dont know that for sure, i doubt that i could find a source aggregating tree cutting rules in all the towns in the US.
Actually that is incorrect, it is the exact opposite of what you're saying. Most cities everywhere in all of North America (Canada and USA) now do have tree protection bylaws and private tree bylaws for residential property owners that prevent tree removals. There are a multitude of reasons for these bylaws. Seriously a multitude.
If a tree on private property in a residential area is of a certain size and type the property owner is required by law to get it inspected and get approval (or refusal) for removal by a city hall authorized arborist/tree specialist and must pay a fee for a permit from city hall to have it removed. It must be removed by an authorized arborist/tree removal specialist too, not by the owner. If the owner does not follow the bylaws procedures and cuts the tree down without permission they can be charged a very hefty fine in the thousands of dollars and may be required to replace the felled tree with another tree. As a matter of fact, in some places even with a permit for removal a tree replacement might be a required condition of getting a permit for removal and the property owner must GUARANTEE that they will replace the tree.
I'd suggest that you should check out the city tree protection bylaws and requirements for your own city or municipality as well as random areas throughout the continent to find out about all that just for your own confirmation. Regardless of whether or not people are tree huggers or tree haters, all are required to follow any given municipality's tree protection bylaws and must understand that the rules are there for the protection of the public and the environment too, not only for the protection of trees and/or property owners.
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I think the OP better google tree laws with his town and state because there very well could be one. I'm actually seeing one for my town but it deals with city trees and trees planted in people's front yards near the 1st whatever feet from the street. From what I'm reading, it doesn't apply to any on our own property except that 10ft clearance from the curb.
you didnt read it. you just went back after my comment to try to get something you could say here to pretend you read it. if you read it then you would have seen its not as supportive of your position as you would like it to be.
ive never taken the position that trees harm property values. so now you have resorted to lying about my position because you arent capable of supporting your position. your position isnt really defensible so i understand your difficulty.
most places dont have laws preventing tree removal. everyone knows that trees are important. but everyone also knows that they may not want every tree on their property.
Do not tell me what I have read or when I have read it. I fully understand those things I choose to cite here and fully concur with the details in the document I linked.
I understand the value of trees, local governments and national organizations understand the value of trees. You can try to argue against that until the cows come home but don't do it by questioning my veracity; that is a violation of the terms of service here.
You can prune/trim a tree and the roots will reduce because it will take a smaller root system to support the tree. If the name species of tree was mentioned I missed it. If you don't know contact a local university or the county extension service and with a leaf, of photo of the spread of the tree they will be able to identify it and let you know about the root system and how it grows. Some have deeper roots that primarily grow down some tend to grow more shallow. This will help you better determine if it is actually the tree that is causing a problem. Like someone mentioned you need to be sure the tree is the problem and not the driveway. Either how it was constructed or the soil and foundation underneath.
If you trim the tree either get someone who knows what they are doing or educate yourself. If you don't know the correct time of year, or how and in what direction/angle to trim the limbs you can do more damage than by cutting it down. Or just kill it by being radical in how you approach the process.
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