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Old 07-01-2020, 08:22 PM
 
Location: Canada
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Plant #24

Just to catalog it, there is of course the CA puppy also.

Attachment 221752
The yellow flower is California poppy. The seed pods that look like cocoons are undeveloped Quaking Grass seed pods, also known as Rattlesnake Quaking Grass.
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Old 07-02-2020, 12:47 AM
 
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$45/hr. Now factor in the expenses they have for vehicles, equipment maintenance, fuel, travel time, wages for workers, benefits, and TAXES. What about government licensing? Insurance? Expenses and time lost due to regulatory compliance?

Sounds like a bargain for having someone else do the work.
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Old 07-02-2020, 03:00 AM
 
Location: Silicon Valley
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I got a quote to mow grass, for fire prevention purpose (as opposed to beautifying the hosue). I haven't asked estimated hours yet; this hourly rate already pauses me. Is that a normal price range for mowing grass these days? This is around Albion CA.

$45/hr = $90K annual salary... It seems just yesterday that hourly workers were fighting for living wage.
Honestly it sounds like a very good deal, especially if we're talking steep incline hills (hence the fire prevention). Just go for it. If they do a nice job, let them keep their money. Making or breaking it here isn't going to be based upon garden guy purchase prices.
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Old 07-02-2020, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Redwood Shores, CA
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Honestly it sounds like a very good deal, especially if we're talking steep incline hills (hence the fire prevention). Just go for it. If they do a nice job, let them keep their money. Making or breaking it here isn't going to be based upon garden guy purchase prices.
My work is only on bluff top; a rather flat area (about 3% grade). I have done it myself before, using a gas powered pole hedge trimmer with adjustable blade angle. The cutting part is kind of enjoyable really. I did not remove the debris; just let it sat there and rot.

I can't be there now due to the pandemic situation. I can only contract someone to do it.

This partial cutting, incidentally, is why I somewhat wonder about the urgency of this work. Starting at the edge of the bluff, by law vegetation cannot be touched. This means the same grass grows on the slope and turns into potential fuel too. Any risk that exists on bluff top exists just beyond that line.

Does it help to reduce the fuel? I think so. But does this make the place fire safe? Well... someone tell me.

In addition we are by the sea; the air is usually quite damp and cold. Take today for example; a typical summer day. Today's high for Fresno CA is predicted to be 94 F. At my area: 60 F.

Not saying I won't comply, just I see contradictory policies (must cut certain part, must not cut certain part).

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Old 07-02-2020, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Redwood Shores, CA
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Plant #26

Checking about a tree in a nearby valley. What tree is it and what is that stuff dangling on the branches? This is not some accidental phenomenon; every tree of this type in that area has this shabby and spooky look.

-45/hr to mow the grass - is that a bit steep?-dsc02764b-large-.jpg
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Old 07-02-2020, 02:50 PM
 
Location: Canada
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Plant #26

Checking about a tree in a nearby valley. What tree is it and what is that stuff dangling on the branches? This is not some accidental phenomenon; every tree of this type in that area has this shabby and spooky look.

Attachment 221765
Not seeing leaves for ID but judging by the tree's growth habit / branch forms I'm guessing it's some kind of oak.

The stuff growing and hanging off the trees is just lichen and is an indication of healthy, unpolluted air in that general environment. It isn't a parasite and isn't hurting the trees.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lichen

The lichens in those trees you posted appear to be numerous types, but the ones trailing off branches are likely beard and/or lace lichens.

https://www.fs.fed.us/wildflowers/pl...ngissima.shtml

Lace Lichen Species Info | California Lichen Socitey (CALS)

pictures: https://www.google.ca/search?q=hangi...h=648&biw=1338

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Old 07-02-2020, 03:00 PM
 
Location: on the wind
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Not seeing leaves for ID but judging by the tree's growth habit / branch forms I'm guessing it's some kind of oak.

The stuff growing and hanging off the trees is just lichen and is an indication of healthy, unpolluted air in that general environment. It isn't a parasite and isn't hurting the trees.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lichen

The lichens in those trees you posted appear to be numerous types, but the ones trailing off branches are likely beard and/or lace lichens.

https://www.fs.fed.us/wildflowers/pl...ngissima.shtml

Lace Lichen Species Info | California Lichen Socitey (CALS)

pictures: https://www.google.ca/search?q=hangi...h=648&biw=1338

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Agree with all of this!
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Old 07-02-2020, 05:07 PM
 
Location: Redwood Shores, CA
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Isn't phragmites a wetland plant though? There was a lecture on it just the other day during Master Gardener College, and I particularly remember that fact. Does his land have any wetland component?
This plant grows by a sand beach, at the first dirt soil.
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Old 07-03-2020, 12:50 AM
 
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My work is only on bluff top; a rather flat area (about 3% grade). I have done it myself before, using a gas powered pole hedge trimmer with adjustable blade angle. The cutting part is kind of enjoyable really. I did not remove the debris; just let it sat there and rot.

I can't be there now due to the pandemic situation. I can only contract someone to do it.

This partial cutting, incidentally, is why I somewhat wonder about the urgency of this work. Starting at the edge of the bluff, by law vegetation cannot be touched. This means the same grass grows on the slope and turns into potential fuel too. Any risk that exists on bluff top exists just beyond that line.

Does it help to reduce the fuel? I think so. But does this make the place fire safe? Well... someone tell me.

In addition we are by the sea; the air is usually quite damp and cold. Take today for example; a typical summer day. Today's high for Fresno CA is predicted to be 94 F. At my area: 60 F.

Not saying I won't comply, just I see contradictory policies (must cut certain part, must not cut certain part).
Get someone local to put boots on the ground, give you recommendations, and evaluate your liability and responsibilities. The lay of the land and the features of the adjacent properties will play into it quite a bit. None of us here can evaluate the whole area in terms of its wildfire risk. Even if you reduce the fuels directly, what's surrounding the parcel that can or might burn will matter. You've gotten some info from knowledgeable folks here already but none of us can see the area.
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Old 07-03-2020, 12:52 AM
 
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This plant grows by a sand beach, at the first dirt soil.
A lot of Phragmites invades coastal soils near the sand limit. It can tolerate brackish salty conditions.
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