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Old 06-29-2020, 02:30 PM
 
Location: Riverside Ca
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It's pure profit , of which at their chosing they can place 'cost' into the subtotal.


Still recall econ class. Very simply put. Two men are asked how much they'd charge to move a mound of gravel. One guy said, why 100$ sir! I got 'overhead' of labor and equipment. The other guy says, sir, how's 50$ sound?. I have muscle, a wheelbarrow and shovel. One man got to eat that week while the other wondered how he was going to pay his loan for his 'equipment'
That's how you work the fairness of who to choose. Who will get the end goal completed at an agreeable price and method.
That’s not a agreeable price. That’s choosing the lowest bidder. And the most inefficient one.


My gardener charges $140 a month for maintaining and weed control. Cuts grass, clips bushes, cleans leaves blows clippings. This using my green waste trash but his equipment.
He spends about a hour or so. 1/2 acre property. Decent amount of stuff to do.

$45 a hour isn’t really that much. Gone are the days of laborers doing work for $10 a hour.
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Old 06-29-2020, 02:39 PM
 
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It depends on what kind of mower they're using. A neighborhood kid with a push mower doesn't have much overhead, and you're paying almost exclusively for labor plus a bit for gas plus a tiny bit of amo on the cost of the mower. $40-$45 would be above market in that case.

If they have serious (expensive) machinery that cuts a large area fast, and they have to travel to the job site and transport the equipment on a truck or trailer, that's different.
Did you look at the OP’s lawn? It clearly requires the latter. There is no way a push mower would handle a full-on prairie that he seems to have going and thinks needs twice yearly maintenance. The hourly rate seems pretty dang good for what he needs.
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Old 06-29-2020, 04:42 PM
 
Location: NJ
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That’s not a agreeable price. That’s choosing the lowest bidder. And the most inefficient one.


My gardener charges $140 a month for maintaining and weed control. Cuts grass, clips bushes, cleans leaves blows clippings. This using my green waste trash but his equipment.
He spends about a hour or so. 1/2 acre property. Decent amount of stuff to do.

$45 a hour isn’t really that much. Gone are the days of laborers doing work for $10 a hour.
Here you can hire an illegal Mexican for $160/day plus lunch. Just give him a pair of scissors and let him cut your grass for about $23 an hour.
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Old 06-29-2020, 06:36 PM
 
Location: North Idaho
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Hey, I see California on the news every year, cheerfully burning. You need defensible space around your house, OP, and that is not a "lawn mowing" job.
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Old 06-29-2020, 06:39 PM
 
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Not sure of you are asking about the math or is it a rhetorical question. But here is my calculation:

An office worker works 40 hours a week. There are 52 weeks a year, so that's 52X40=2080 hours. For simplicity we usually just use 2000 to do the conversion.

This means, a McDonald's hourly worker who gets paid $15/hr, is equivalent to an annual salary of 15X2000=30K.

On the reverse, someone making $100K annually salary, is making a $100,000/2000=$50/hr hourly wage.

This lawn mower's requested rate is equivalent to 45X2000=$90K salary if he/she works a full 2000 hours a year like an office worker.
Office workers don't have travel time between hours that are paying. Travel in their vehicle hauling their equipment.
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Old 06-29-2020, 10:26 PM
 
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How much is it for YOU to NOT do the work?
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Old Yesterday, 03:07 AM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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Grass is about 2' tall. By the way, this is not grass that cows or sheep regularly eat, is it?

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If I was a cow or a sheep, I would eat that.
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Old Yesterday, 09:35 AM
 
Location: British Columbia ~🌄 ☀️ ♥ 🍁 ♥ ☀️🌄~
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If I was a cow or a sheep, I would eat that.
I don't think so. It isn't easily digestible hay, it's coarse bedding straw at this stage. It's tinder.

It looks like it could have made good green browse at a much earlier stage before it went to seed. But if you were a cow or sheep you wouldn't touch it now the way it is unless you were starving and really desperate. For fodder of nutritional value, energy and palatability it has to be either browsed on the hoof or else cut and cured while it's still tender and green with some sweet juice in it and milk in the seeds, before it's gone to mature seed and all toughened up into stiff straw like wood fiber.

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Old Yesterday, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Raleigh
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Originally Posted by RobertFisher View Post
Not sure of you are asking about the math or is it a rhetorical question. But here is my calculation:

An office worker works 40 hours a week. There are 52 weeks a year, so that's 52X40=2080 hours. For simplicity we usually just use 2000 to do the conversion.

This means, a McDonald's hourly worker who gets paid $15/hr, is equivalent to an annual salary of 15X2000=30K.

On the reverse, someone making $100K annually salary, is making a $100,000/2000=$50/hr hourly wage.

This lawn mower's requested rate is equivalent to 45X2000=$90K salary if he/she works a full 2000 hours a year like an office worker.
How would the business owner bill 2000 hours a year? Remember he has to talk to prospective customers, he has to matain his books, he has to drive from account to account, he has to do 100 other things that he doesn't get paid for.

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Yes that was too overly rough an assessment. Indeed equipment and gas are all valid cost components.
He has to factor in the cost of his equipment, the cost of his truck, the fuel for both...
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Old Yesterday, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Redwood Shores, CA
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I don't think so. It isn't easily digestible hay, it's coarse bedding straw at this stage. It's tinder.

It looks like it could have made good green browse at a much earlier stage before it went to seed. But if you were a cow or sheep you wouldn't touch it now the way it is unless you were starving and really desperate. For fodder of nutritional value, energy and palatability it has to be either browsed on the hoof or else cut and cured while it's still tender and green with some sweet juice in it and milk in the seeds, before it's gone to mature seed and all toughened up into stiff straw like wood fiber.

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