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Old 02-12-2021, 02:34 PM
 
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Well, any snake can bite I guess, but a round head means non venomous.
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Old 02-12-2021, 02:44 PM
 
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Could you at least describe the snake? Is the head V shaped, or rounded? V for vipers. And vipers will have toxins. Rounded heads, snakes are safe.
Absolutely not true. Many snakes will flatten their heads to look scary...and venomous. One of the most venomous snakes is a coral...with a round head.

Theres not that many venomous snakes. Learn the ones that are in your area...probably not more than 5 or 6. Snakes are definitely environmentally friendly, and will not hurt you...at all...if you leave them alone.

Hate hearing people just wanting to kill critters just because they are in their space. Actually, you are in THEIR space. Maybe try to learn about whats in your yard and stop randomly killing.
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Old 02-12-2021, 02:44 PM
 
Location: North Idaho
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Well, any snake can bite I guess, but a round head means non venomous.
Unless it is a coral snake.

Still, myself, I want snakes as long as they aren't the very few kinds that are venomous. Even the venomous ones I will leave alone if they are not in my yard.
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Old 02-12-2021, 04:08 PM
 
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Unless it is a coral snake.

Still, myself, I want snakes as long as they aren't the very few kinds that are venomous. Even the venomous ones I will leave alone if they are not in my yard.

I learned something new today. Coral snakes have round heads. lol


But yeah...snakes don't bother me. I give them wide birth when I see them, but I leave them alone. They're only going to strike if threatened, and it's been easy enough to avoid them, when we're out in the country. And yes, I see plenty of snakes when we're out in the country. They eat mice and I like animals that eat mice. LOL
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Old 02-12-2021, 04:36 PM
 
Location: Greenville, SC
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Maybe a worm snake - they average 9" and eat mostly earthworms.

Worm Snake

And as others have said -- please don't kill snakes just because they're snakes.
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Old 02-12-2021, 04:45 PM
 
Location: southwest TN
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We have snakes our kitties bring into the house. I've learned how to identify the most common they bring in: ring neck, garter, dekays brown. I rescue them from the kitties and take them out to the woods. The number of venomous snakes is small and the number of good snakes is quite large.

Please don't kill the snakes. Contact your wildlife resources for identification and to rescue those poor snakes from you.
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Old 02-12-2021, 04:52 PM
 
Location: on the wind
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If these snakes were as brightly patterned as a coral snake the markings would probably be the first thing you'd mention when trying to describe them. King and coral snakes both have distinctive contrast banding the length of their bodies but the order in which the color bands are arranged matters. There's even a simple rhyme to help make the ID quickly.

https://outdoormeta.com/coral-snake-...g-snake-apart/

The other venomous snakes in the US are relatives of pit vipers (rattlesnakes, copperheads, cottonmouth/water moccasin). Typically heavy stocky bodied, stubby tailed with spade-shaped heads broader than the neck. Non-venomous snakes (except for the coral snake) tend to have heads that are the same width as their necks.

https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/topics/snakes/default.html

If you don't want snakes sheltering in your garden, keep it picked up. Don't leave stuff (boards, lumber, firewood, leaf or branch piles, branches, tarps) lying around!
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Old 02-12-2021, 06:15 PM
 
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In VA, § 29.1-521 makes killing a snake that is not an imminent danger a Class 3 misdemeanor. Thus, yes, you can kill a rattlesnake - under certain conditions, but not a garden snake. Many states have similar laws.

Personally, I am more worried about being bitten by a black widow spider than a snake. Even now, as cold as it is, they are sluggishly lurking beneath bricks and logs so wear leather gloves.
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Old 02-13-2021, 07:14 AM
 
Location: Virginia
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In VA, § 29.1-521 makes killing a snake that is not an imminent danger a Class 3 misdemeanor. Thus, yes, you can kill a rattlesnake - under certain conditions, but not a garden snake. Many states have similar laws.

Personally, I am more worried about being bitten by a black widow spider than a snake. Even now, as cold as it is, they are sluggishly lurking beneath bricks and logs so wear leather gloves.
I agree. They also really like bags of mulch that have been sitting stacked up for a while. I always have to remind my garden helpers because they don't wear gloves and I'm afraid they might get bitten. I've also seen black widows nesting between lengths of landscape timbers - ick! Snakes, on the other hand, pretty much don't scare me at all. In fact, I miss the black snakes I had at my old house. I could pet the larger one.
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Old 02-13-2021, 02:07 PM
 
Location: Old Hippie Heaven
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The only small snake I'm afraid of is a Pygmy rattler. I know a lady who picked up a flower pot she thought was empty, and the snake bit her on her hand. She almost died before the ambulance got to her house.

I find garter snakes all the time though and they are totally harmless.
they're not just harmless. Most of us positively appreciate something that eats mice and rats while not posing any danger at all.

A garden with a garter snake or two in it is a healthy garden.

OP, instead of teaching your kids to fear something because it's a snake, why not learn what naturally lives in your area, and teach your kids to identify what is there. It's just as useful to know which snakes are not venomous as those which are.

In the US, if you know how to identify what is a rattlesnake, a water moccasin, a coral snake, and a copperhead, you'll have it covered. there is more than one species of each, but their family resemblances make it pretty easy.

https://www.snakesforpets.com/most-v...united-states/

https://davesgarden.com/guides/articles/view/3273

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