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Old 01-28-2023, 07:46 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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See the pics, this is been an ongoing issue - I finally just turned it off n have it sitting there until I can figure how to combat this (Lights on, pump off)

The chemicals seen I got at Home Depot at the recommendation of someone there who said these should work lol. For the POOL one, obviously, I only add a few drops as I know using too much will cause more scale than removing it. The others I use per the instructions on the bottle (use x amount per gallon or x gallons)

Used these one at a time, where I would use one, then see in a week if it did anything, if not I would empty the fountain, wash it out with soap, then try something else. As a last-ditch effort, I tried the algae thing PLUS the clarifier together, but no dice. Then algae plus sludge together, no dice, then algae and pool together, no dice, and this is my final result.

BACKGROUND ON H2O - I live in Vegas, and we have hard water. Maybe buying a distilled water machine on amazon and making distilled water from my tap water would help? Home depot lady seemed to think with the right treatments they will take care of the hard water issues and prevent this issue, but alas, has not worked. Maybe instead of distilled water just need a filter for my tap like Brita or such to prevent this?

Please help - how can I remove these marks and then prevent them in the future?

YES, I KEEP MY FOUNTAIN ON 24/7 unless my weather station shows a 4+ mph wind speed at my house in which case I have a remote trigger on my phone and I turn off the pump so it does not blow out all the water and burn up the pump.

Thanks!!!

PHOTOS HERE SINCE CANNOT FIND HOW TO POST ON THIS POST:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/vSPAUVaF4NCnvUuW7
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Old 01-29-2023, 10:19 AM
 
Location: Canada
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Sorry, I can't get the pictures to come up but have you tried ordinary full strength chlorine bleach?

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Old 01-29-2023, 02:16 PM
 
Location: Eastern Tennessee
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I can't see the pix either but I was wondering of CLR might work -- could be mineral deposits.
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Old 01-29-2023, 03:57 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Is the fountain made out of real wood or some other material?

This link worked for me:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/vSPAUVaF4NCnvUuW7
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Old 01-29-2023, 04:08 PM
 
Location: Eastern Tennessee
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Is the fountain made out of real wood or some other material?

This link worked for me:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/vSPAUVaF4NCnvUuW7
Those pix reinforce my suspicion of minerals in the water causing the discoloration.
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Old 01-29-2023, 09:53 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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Sorry, I can't get the pictures to come up but have you tried ordinary full strength chlorine bleach?

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I have not - you think bleach would work on this and not stain it more?
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Old 01-29-2023, 09:54 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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Is the fountain made out of real wood or some other material?

This link worked for me:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/vSPAUVaF4NCnvUuW7
It is like a hard plastic not exactly sure - def not real wood
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Old 01-29-2023, 09:57 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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I can't see the pix either but I was wondering of CLR might work -- could be mineral deposits.
Tried adding clr to the water it got some of it off but not a lot - just like the crystalized stuff or thicker stuff. The actual stains remained. So Maybe I need to scrub it more or something with stronger stregnth not diluted clr?

And yes I know I have hard water here - I was told some of the pictures of the chemicals u see - that those would combat that and make it safe to use. Should I get a filter like Brita or would distilled water be the best route to go moving forward, in your opinion?
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Old 01-29-2023, 11:03 PM
 
Location: Tricity, PL
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It is like a hard plastic not exactly sure - def not real wood

This seem to be the same fountain. Surely not a cheap crap.
"Cast in quality designer resin and hand-finished to replicate a weathered hollow tree-wood-knots and all-our garden fountain"

https://www.michaels.com/hawksbill-g...5828S.html?r=g

Now we have to find out how to clean resin without damaging it. I think that the green stuff could be pea soup algae.

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Maintenance of resin is a simple process, you just need to keep the product clean with warm water combined with an all-purpose household cleaner and a soft brush. You can also spray with a UV protectant, available at your local hardware. Never leave a resin product outdoors over the winter as it cracks easily in temperatures
below freezing.
Water deposits are best cleaned with solution commercial vinegar (Home Depot, Lowe's , Cleaning Solution stores) mixed with water. Apply generously on a old rag, cover the affected areas and let it soak. Then scrub with a soft brush. Use old toothbrush for hard to reach areas. You might need to repeat it several times till all is gone.

In the future use distilled water.

Also check this:
https://www.hometalk.com/diy/outdoor...ntain-31996058

https://www.anchorpumps.com/blog/kee...-clean-expert/

Good luck with the restoration, OP!

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Old 01-30-2023, 12:30 AM
 
Location: Canada
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I have not - you think bleach would work on this and not stain it more?
I have seen the pictures now. You can try bleach and it will work to some degree at a ratio of 1 cup bleach to 2 cups of water but I don't know how well that will work on copper which is what I think those stains are.

That blue-green stain looks exactly like either copper sulfate or copper mineral deposits. You can get rid of it by mixing vinegar with baking soda or vinegar with salt and scrubbing the stains with a stiff bristle brush dipped in the solution. There are also other products available for removal of the blue copper stains. Here are an assortment of remedies to choose from:

https://www.google.ca/search?q=how+t...t=gws-wiz-serp

Here is what copper mineral and/or copper sulphate stains look like on a variety of materials, it's a very common thing anywhere there is a lot of copper deposits in the water:

https://www.google.ca/search?q=coppe...biw=1120&hl=en

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