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Old 06-09-2008, 08:04 PM
 
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Sooo. . . . they have it down to the details of the genetic markers that these are all of the same source . . . .

Investigation of Outbreak of Infections Caused by Salmonella Saintpaul | Salmonella CDC

But . . . . the stories are TOTALLY lacking in stating the source, distribution and sellers of these tainted tomatoes are. What is up with that? Have to protect the guilty corporations above all else?
That's because they don't know yet. There's a lot of investigation happening at the moment to try to determine any one source. At the moment it's linked to tomatoes because all the people who got sick have eaten tomatoes, whereas others in the households who didn't get sick have not. So tomatoes are considered a possible culprit. At the moment all that's known for certain are that the strains are genetically the same, indicating this is one outbreak, all likely the same source.

Because tomatoes, like most vegetables in the US, travel a long distance to many different places, it can take awhile to pinpoint this further.

I don't recall how long the E.Coli in Spinach took before it was traced back to one farm, but it was more than a few days or weeks - this outbreak is relatively new. it usually takes a few weeks for it to come to the attention of health authorities, as salmonella is common enough. While it's reportable in most states, it's not til there's a significant increase that a common thread starts to emerge.

Determining the genetic markers is the easiest part of it all.
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Old 06-09-2008, 09:48 PM
 
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I've heard that the people harvesting crops aren't allowed bathroom times, or they go in the fields, and you know there aren't bathrooms there.
You know how business is...any place they can cut costs, they do, and they don't care if you or I get sick.
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Old 06-09-2008, 11:37 PM
 
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How long after one eats tainted tomatoes does one start to feel sick?
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Old 06-10-2008, 07:25 AM
 
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How long after one eats tainted tomatoes does one start to feel sick?

8-48 hours. I'm not sure what the current mean is for this outbreak, but anywhere in that range is typical.
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Old 06-11-2008, 10:33 AM
 
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Determining the genetic markers is the easiest part of it all.
As well as one other easy part . . . . Wal-Mart.
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Old 06-11-2008, 05:00 PM
 
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I've heard that the people harvesting crops aren't allowed bathroom times, or they go in the fields, and you know there aren't bathrooms there.
I doubt they could contaminate a whole field. My guess, with both the spinach and the tomato situation, is those farms are using reclaimed waste water for irrigation (treated sewage), and some improperly treated water got through inspection. Far easier to blame the farmer than admit a fault at the government level.
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Old 06-12-2008, 07:00 PM
 
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Good point, hcgcali.

If the outbreak is in 23 states, it is obviously more than just a picker with poor hygiene. Sad to say some people are so quick to jump on the illegals, blah blah, blah.

But obviously, the entire processing has to be examined, including the processing plants, the washing, the water used to irrigate, cross-contamination, etc.

Florida's tomatoes were deemed safe.

Salmonellosis Outbreak in Certain Types of Tomatoes

I will find out by monday if I have salmonella. I have been off work sick since Monday. It ain't pretty.
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Old 06-12-2008, 07:28 PM
 
Location: new england
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I had pizza last night and forgot all about the tomato issue.
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Old 06-12-2008, 07:36 PM
 
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Oh, wow, Redbird! I hope you are ok!
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Old 06-12-2008, 07:45 PM
 
Location: Duncan, OK
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I had pizza last night and forgot all about the tomato issue.
Pizza isn't a problem unless you had fresh tomatoes added AFTER it was cooked.
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