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Old 10-10-2008, 10:13 PM
 
Location: Northeast Tennessee
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I live in northeast Tennessee, yet still have two Southern Live Oak trees that I have had for about 3 years and they have took the winters in stride.

Something strange is going on though. Both grow well, but one is not growing as fast, BUT it has larger leaves and fuller in general. The other is growing like a weed - super fast, but it has smaller leaves and the wood itself is smaller.

My father said its where the one growing faster is getting less light and its trying to "reach" into the light, but it looks to me like they are getting the same amount, but I could be wrong.

Has anyone else ever experienced this?

Also, how often should I prune these and how should I go about it?

Thanks.
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Old 10-12-2008, 07:25 PM
 
Location: a primitive state
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Don't prune them. Maybe give the slower one a little more fertilizer in the spring. Something's not balanced, but I doubt it's lack of light.

Really what I mean by not pruning, is not to try to restrict their height. You'll screw up their structure if you don't know what you're doing. Let nature take its course and consult a master gardener or someone who has proper knowledge if you want to work on them. There's a proper way to do it, but not enough space or time to tell you myself.
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Old 10-12-2008, 08:32 PM
 
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I planted two live oaks at the same time but one is much bigger than the other and it clearly has to do with the amount of sun they get and the intensity. The smaller one gets some morning and some late afternoon sun but the bigger one gets sun from about noon on.

I wouldn't prune them at all unless branches are in your way or growing too low on the trunk. Each little leaf is a photosynthesis factory and helps the tree grow.
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Old 10-12-2008, 09:53 PM
 
Location: Northeast Tennessee
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Thanks for the replies. I will not prune them then. I was just thinking that somewhere that I once read these should be pruned, but when I was visiting relatives in upstate South Carolina I seen these in the "wild" and they were beautiful and I know that no one was pruning them.

My only concerns with these trees is that I know they get very large. Due to such limited space, I had to plant both of them within 50 ft. of the house, so I may eventually have to prune them in my lifetime. I may be forced to move one of them this winter (or early spring - whever is best) because we are planning to build a garage very near to where one is planted. I am going to TRY to plant it in a place where it has more room to grow.

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Don't prune them. Maybe give the slower one a little more fertilizer in the spring. Something's not balanced, but I doubt it's lack of light.

Really what I mean by not pruning, is not to try to restrict their height. You'll screw up their structure if you don't know what you're doing. Let nature take its course and consult a master gardener or someone who has proper knowledge if you want to work on them. There's a proper way to do it, but not enough space or time to tell you myself.
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I planted two live oaks at the same time but one is much bigger than the other and it clearly has to do with the amount of sun they get and the intensity. The smaller one gets some morning and some late afternoon sun but the bigger one gets sun from about noon on.

I wouldn't prune them at all unless branches are in your way or growing too low on the trunk. Each little leaf is a photosynthesis factory and helps the tree grow.
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Old 10-13-2008, 09:45 AM
 
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Of course you may need to prune them eventually if they're rubbing on a building or something or the growth is so thick that no grass will grow underneath and you want to let some sun in. But there's no need to prune just for the sake of pruning. Good luck with moving one if you have to. That can be tricky.
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Old 10-13-2008, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Floribama
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Live oaks can vary with their surroundings. Trees grown in the open will be low branched and wide spreading (more typical), but trees grown next to buildings or clustered next to other trees will grow more upright. Many people do prune the lower branches of open grown trees so the branches wont interfere with vehicle traffic or walkways. As for the growth rate, seedlings will very. Some are naturally more vigorous than others, as they get older the growth rate should even out.
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Old 10-14-2008, 06:54 PM
 
Location: Northeast Tennessee
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Of course you may need to prune them eventually if they're rubbing on a building or something or the growth is so thick that no grass will grow underneath and you want to let some sun in. But there's no need to prune just for the sake of pruning. Good luck with moving one if you have to. That can be tricky.
Thanks - well the one that has to be moved is the one thats not as tall and we think we can dig enough around it not to even bother any of the roots. I hope.

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Live oaks can vary with their surroundings. Trees grown in the open will be low branched and wide spreading (more typical), but trees grown next to buildings or clustered next to other trees will grow more upright. Many people do prune the lower branches of open grown trees so the branches wont interfere with vehicle traffic or walkways. As for the growth rate, seedlings will very. Some are naturally more vigorous than others, as they get older the growth rate should even out.
Thanks! Thats good to know! I noticed when I was visiting relatives in upstate South Carolina some Live Oaks that were tall and not very "spready" and they were amongst other trees, so they were basically like you mentioned, which is fine with me... as long as the grow.
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Old 10-24-2008, 10:49 PM
 
Location: Northeast Tennessee
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Finally - some photos!

I took these tonight. As you can see, one is quite tall - over 6 ft (but a thin trunk) whereas the other is only about 3 1/2 ft, thicker trunk and larger leaves... Remember, these were both planted in early spring of 2006 and both were only "seedlings" when I planted them and were the exacy same size.



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