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Old 08-04-2009, 08:30 PM
 
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Paperhouse, I am in NC, too and I would LOVE the datura that is easily grown from seed!
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Old 08-04-2009, 08:31 PM
 
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Is it just me or do the drooping variety look...depressed? Sad looking flowers!
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Old 08-04-2009, 08:57 PM
 
Location: Albemarle, NC
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Brugmansia is a variety of Datura. . .
Nope. They are in the same family, Solanaceae, but their genii are datura and brugmansia. They are related, but one is not a variety of the other. Daturas are herbaceous plants while brugmansias form woody stems that support the branches. They can be trained into tree forms where datura is a crawler. Brugmansias are easiest to grow from cuttings of other plants. Datura are best grown from seed where they do not overwinter.
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Old 08-04-2009, 08:58 PM
 
Location: Albemarle, NC
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Is it just me or do the drooping variety look...depressed? Sad looking flowers!
Once you get a whiff of the fragrance, there's nothing sad about either of them.

I'll let you know when I have seeds. The pods haven't cracked yet, but it shouldn't be too long.
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Old 08-05-2009, 05:25 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Nope. They are in the same family, Solanaceae, but their genii are datura and brugmansia. They are related, but one is not a variety of the other. Daturas are herbaceous plants while brugmansias form woody stems that support the branches. They can be trained into tree forms where datura is a crawler. Brugmansias are easiest to grow from cuttings of other plants. Datura are best grown from seed where they do not overwinter.
Thank You!
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Old 08-05-2009, 05:43 AM
 
Location: Chapel Hill, N.C.
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Thanks to chiroptera and paperhouse. That is exactly what it is. Brugmansia. never heard of it before. This morning I left a note in their mailbox asking them to comfirm the ID and telling them how much I admire the plants. If they are poisonious how can we get the deer to eat them?

Thanks to all who tried to help me. It is wonderful to have such experienced folks on this forum.
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Old 08-05-2009, 08:07 AM
 
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Once you get a whiff of the fragrance, there's nothing sad about either of them.

I'll let you know when I have seeds. The pods haven't cracked yet, but it shouldn't be too long.
How exciting - thank you!
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Old 08-05-2009, 08:45 AM
 
Location: Albemarle, NC
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Thank You!
No problem. There's been a lot of confusion about these two plants, and even some horticulturists want to classify them in the same genus because of the flowers. Both are highly fragrant too, especially at night.
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Old 08-05-2009, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Albemarle, NC
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Thanks to chiroptera and paperhouse. That is exactly what it is. Brugmansia. never heard of it before. This morning I left a note in their mailbox asking them to comfirm the ID and telling them how much I admire the plants. If they are poisonious how can we get the deer to eat them?

Thanks to all who tried to help me. It is wonderful to have such experienced folks on this forum.
LOL. The deer won't eat them. Just like they don't eat oleander and castor beans.

Chances are, they may only know the plant as Angel's Trumpet. That's the common name for both datura and brugs. Some call datura Devil's trumpet, too, since the blooms point upwards.

I'll have rooted cuttings in early December.
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Old 08-05-2009, 09:23 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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No problem. There's been a lot of confusion about these two plants, and even some horticulturists want to classify them in the same genus because of the flowers. Both are highly fragrant too, especially at night.
Yup, that was my problem. . . must have been taught, at one point or another that it was Datura. . . the horticultural world is just as bad as the orthinologists about classifying and re-classifying! Anyhow, correct and up to date info is always appreciated! I hope to never stop learning!
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